Mariano 958 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 26 minutes ago, SKANK said: The Ellen bandwagon hate is so weird, so misguided, so sad. When Ellen came out, she lost her money, her career, everything. Her sitcom was suddenly considered seedy, and had an "adult content" warning slapped on it. She lost her sponsors. The president of ABC said it was "too much" for public to see a gay woman every week on TV. There were full page ads in magazines accusing her of being an affront to the decency of our country. She received bomb threats. Just for being on her show Laura Dern almost lost her career, and Oprah received death threats for the first time. The Right labeled her "Ellen Degenerate," the NYT accused her of rubbing her sexuality in America's face, and even Elton said she was "too gay." She was the butt of every joke. She was treated like ****, by everyone, for being gay. If that experience hardened her, and made her bitter, and unkind, I completely understand that. If she is able to set that bitterness aside and preach publicly about the value of kindness, when so little was showed to her? More power to her. When someone comes out in 2020 they get to go on a positive PR tour and complain because a talk show host didn't give them enough one-on-one time. They don't have to become a reviled pervert who looses their income and social standing. Thank Ellen for that. I agree with that though! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Varys said: why doesn't she stop then? you can see it. She is not intrested or enthusiastic as she used to be lol money and attention duh It's an act and she's good at it I've been over her ever since she gave 10,000 to the Rhodes bros just for coming out of the closet as gay When there was apparently videos going around like every other attractive cis gay has in the community Her putting Caitlyn Jenner in her place was nice I guess but still no Trans representation really Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional 9,221 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, evilfaqqot said: *GerWOMAN #cancelledt #periodt WHEN I SAY THIS MADE ME CACKLE- IT MADE ME PEEEEE MYSELF ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️BANNED TILL SEPTEMBER‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeitrough 5,651 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 57 minutes ago, SKANK said: The Ellen bandwagon hate is so weird, so misguided, so sad. When Ellen came out, she lost her money, her career, everything. Her sitcom was suddenly considered seedy, and had an "adult content" warning slapped on it. She lost her sponsors. The president of ABC said it was "too much" for public to see a gay woman every week on TV. There were full page ads in magazines accusing her of being an affront to the decency of our country. She received bomb threats. Just for being on her show Laura Dern almost lost her career, and Oprah received death threats for the first time. The Right labeled her "Ellen Degenerate," the NYT accused her of rubbing her sexuality in America's face, and even Elton said she was "too gay." She was the butt of every joke. She was treated like ****, by everyone, for being gay. If that experience hardened her, and made her bitter, and unkind, I completely understand that. If she is able to set that bitterness aside and preach publicly about the value of kindness, when so little was showed to her? More power to her. When someone comes out in 2020 they get to go on a positive PR tour and complain because a talk show host didn't give them enough one-on-one time. They don't have to become a reviled pervert who looses their income and social standing. Thank Ellen for that. no one is denying Ellen's trailblazing. she is an LGTBQ icon. every person in our community should understand what she has done for us all thanks to the personal sacrifices she made. but, that doesn't excuse her being problematic, rude, etc. just because of her icon status. RuPaul is an LGBTQ icon in his own way but his dismissiveness of transgender people will not be tolerated because of his cultural impact. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
littlepotter 72,892 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Helxig said: Rupaul and Ellen have numerous accounts of people working with them and speaking about how fake they are. Every, single, person who has ever worked with Gaga, from big celebrity names to people just working security backstage, have said how kind and genuine she is. I remember this one story of somebody working backstage at one of her shows who said she learned everyone's names and thanked them all personally and that no other star had ever even given them the time of day. The consistency in this story makes me believe that she's the real deal! No fake bitch would have the stamina to keep up the charade to that degree! Tea! We stan a queen of kindness! chaeri pls Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Shes so pretty and glowy Also I dont like Ellen, she's had racist things on her show, and she always thinks she has the high moral ground on everything and everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SKANK 14,288 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 11 minutes ago, likeitrough said: no one is denying the Ellen's trailblazing. she is an LGTBQ icon. every person in our community should understand what she has done for us all thanks to the personal sacrifices she made. but, that doesn't excuse her being problematic, rude, etc. just because of her icon status. RuPaul is an LGBTQ icon in his own way but his dismissiveness of transgender people will not be tolerated because of his cultural impact. In this thread you have people calling Ellen greedy, saying they hate her, calling her a fake flop, and literally laughing at her coming out experience. Based on the petty vitriol directed at Ellen on this site and social media more broadly, there is clearly a generation of LGBT people who do not understand the magnitude of her sacrafice. It’s helpful to remind them of what she went through, so that when they do take issue with something Ellen does, they do it with the grace and respect she earned. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeitrough 5,651 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, SKANK said: In this thread you have people calling Ellen greedy, saying they hate her, calling her a fake flop, and literally laughing at her coming out experience. Based on the petty vitriol directed at Ellen on this site and social media more broadly, there is clearly a generation of LGBT people who do not understand the magnitude of her sacrafice. It’s helpful to remind them of what she went through, so that when they do take issue with something Ellen does, they do it with the grace and respect she earned. well said, and I understand completely what you mean. i hope you understood my POV also. Ellen is an icon but she should be held accountable. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackpink 13,831 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 2 hours ago, i medici said: Oh wow, please educate yourself 2 hours ago, Gagi said: Maybe because she isn’t 2 hours ago, Flopplause said: She's Dutch 2 hours ago, Varys said: excuse you. How dare you don't mistake dutch for german drag me omg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 87,473 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 Okay, even if Ellen’s wasn’t that great of an experience, it also isn’t nice of Nikkie to say that, Ellen gave her a huge platform to speak about her coming out and the interview was quite good If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daylight Jokers 14,958 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I mean, it's not like Ellen was rude to her backstage. She just didn't personally greet her after/before her interview...I honestly don't see anything wrong with that. Would it be better if Ellen went to her dressing room and had a good chat with her? Of course. But it's not really that big a deal. I know Ellen can be problematic, but I personally think that specific story is not at all. What's important was she was given a platform to share her story to inspire other transwomen/men out there. That doesn't happen everyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chipz 1,197 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 The interview is about her hosting Eurovision 2020. Welcome to the ESC bubble! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Empty 22,557 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I'd be uncomfortable too if I was Nikkie. Going on the Ellen show to do a live interview for millions of people must've been a nerve-wrecking experience. As Nikkie said in another video: she was super scared to talk about it "outside her safe bubble". I don't think it's too much to ask of Ellen to check how the interviewee is doing before discussing such a sensitive topic on (inter)national television. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch 87,117 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Dolce Vita said: OMG I had no idea she was German I swear, if I hear one more GGD hunty says that our language is that ugly German language I-... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch 87,117 Posted February 17, 2020 Share Posted February 17, 2020 I didn't call myself Dutch for all this disrespectful name calling which is German. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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