Joe Biden calls out Bernie over supporters behaviour

[Ladey Gaygay 9,321]

I find it funny that you make up 90% of the replies in this thread

[Bt1 5,213]

35 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

It's been "the situation" for Bernie for 5 years now? 

Mean supporters is like the bulk of the establishments crutch against him. Oppo research on him has mostly been unfruitful and nothing that regular voters care about. Even this only really upsets the PMC and "unity!!!" liberals. Clearly, since hes been able to rise in the polls multiple times despite the prevailing "bernie bros so bad!" narrative.

Also, It's just really the pot calling the kettle black with Joe specifically. On the debate stage Tom Steyer asked Joe to denounce one of his own who had said something racist and Joe just shrugged it off and said "black people love me"  

And this is all in response to an incident of political theater by the Culinary union leadership. There is an Open petition from the members of that union saying that they support Bernie and M4A, and some of the people they referenced as "bernie supporters" in their decision to release the press statement were in fact actually just Trump supporters who ALSO called Bernie a "communist"  

We'll see how Nevada goes. I'm sure Joe is desperate, he did abysmally in IA/NH and needs some kind of showing in NV. This is how politics work, you make stuff up, you hope it sticks, etc. The thing is it just shows Joe's desperation. At least with Bernie its alleged fans making rude comments, and not the candidate himself (like Joe  )

Bernie and Amy had it easy until now. That was also because they got big in the polls at the right time, but also because Biden believed that he could win without going down. 

Now he knows that it isnt the case, but still the Trump interview about Bernie makes it clear that the moderates were good guys with Bernie. 

All the other situations you speak about are really nice half truths that dont make Bernie and his supporters look better. His supporters deserved more criticism. Hopefully this will make some of them control themself.

[Antoni 5,332]

59 minutes ago, Florin said:

No. They are voting to keep their plan. 

I haven't met a single person who says "I don't want my plan to change." Just people who say "Bernie won't be able to get it done." 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

1 hour ago, Florin said:

Bernie and Amy had it easy until now. That was also because they got big in the polls at the right time, but also because Biden believed that he could win without going down. 

Now he knows that it isnt the case, but still the Trump interview about Bernie makes it clear that the moderates were good guys with Bernie. 

All the other situations you speak about are really nice half truths that dont make Bernie and his supporters look better. His supporters deserved more criticism. Hopefully this will make some of them control themself.

Amy yes. Bernie, no. Like, I cant see that as anything other than a willfully ignorant statement that is completely contrary to the litany of attack pieces, coverage, and even threads on this very website that you and others are propping up on a daily basis.

Gosh, I can't wait for media to START running anti-bernie attack ads, sending anti-Bernie pundits all over media, writing anti-bernie think pieces, sending establishment figures to bash him nationally, funding his opposition, and even getting people to run just to oppose him! Maybe they'll finally call him racist, a sexist, a bigot, and compare him and his supporters to Trump, Maybe they'll call him a communist, point out his socialism, his honeymoon, his voting record... Really there's so much they just havent done yet and we aren't ready for it!

...Oh wait  

[derpmonster 22,412]

Remember when Biden was given the opportunity 3 times during last debate to disavow and say something meaningful about his racist campaign member and he refused?

Something something glass houses.

[Whispering 18,865]

1 hour ago, Timmers said:

I haven't met a single person who says "I don't want my plan to change." Just people who say "Bernie won't be able to get it done." 

I know lots of people who have great insurance. They pay very little to go to the doctor and for meds, and have low deductibles. 

There are lots of people who want to keep their private insurance.

[Evan Peters 10,776]

2 minutes ago, Whispering said:

I know lots of people who have great insurance. They pay very little to go to the doctor and for meds, and have low deductibles. 

There are lots of people who want to keep their private insurance.

And there's lots of people who want to change their insurance. You can argue this all day lmao

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

8 minutes ago, Evan Peters said:

And there's lots of people who want to change their insurance. You can argue this all day lmao

The uniting factor is that all people who have employer offered insurance are at risk of that insurance changing, being cut, suspended, etc. Not to mention that life is dynamic - they can be fired, have kids, move, change career fields entirely, etc. M4A is portable and unchanging.

At the end of the day though, you need to be making around $200,000 a year to begin to start paying more under M4A than under the average annual spending on healthcare with private insurance, and you would also likely need to be around that tax bracket or work in a specialized and effectively unionized field (often requiring college degrees, connections, etc.) to be able to get a private insurance plan that is that affordable in the first place.

It's like asking people to look at two options side to side and telling them that the more expensive, less reliable option is going to be better for them at face value  

The obvious barrier is just people who are afraid of change, and thats obviously a documented phenomenon, but it is also privileged in some ways as well.

[Economy 52,930]

This is starting to become embarrassing

 

U gotta come up with other arguments than just "his supporters"

[derpmonster 22,412]

11 minutes ago, Economy said:

This is starting to become embarrassing

 

U gotta come up with other arguments than just "his supporters"

Yep, this is like discrediting Lady Gaga's work or achievements because of us  or claiming Beyonce is bad because the hive is toxic. Childish argument. But mainstream liberal media will run with it.

[Lion Heart 15,041]

I'm seeing an increase in the "Bernie Bros" narrative in mainstream news outlets once again. 

From Joe Bidden to Fred Guttenberg and others. I guess this is their strategy now. 

[Whispering 18,865]

5 hours ago, Evan Peters said:

And there's lots of people who want to change their insurance. You can argue this all day lmao

Yes, there are, and more affordable insurance should be available for them. 

[Bt1 5,213]

8 hours ago, Timmers said:

I haven't met a single person who says "I don't want my plan to change." Just people who say "Bernie won't be able to get it done." 

People on this union want to keep their plan.

[lego 44,165]