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Bernie Leads Dems With Independents, Crushes Trump by 18 points in new poll

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Gagaloo92

In a new Reuters/Ipsos poll, Bernie leads every other Democratic candidate and crushes Trump with Independents, a key and deciding voting bloc in every election. 

 

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/02/11/sanders-crushes-trump-18-points-among-independent-voters-new-national-general?fbclid=IwAR1VfcjT1YSG58uo8VTaTP5P5vRKRODX7XKBtjqvSGjVSl3VAUv5iBjJqL4

How's that for electability little centrists? :vegas:

 

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Ladey Gaygay

They hate to see it:vegas:

𝖎 𝖘𝖑𝖊𝖊𝖕 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝖌𝖚𝖞𝖘 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖋𝖚𝖓 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖉𝖗𝖚𝖌𝖘
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Maleficent

Before anyone says “Polls can’t be trusted, look at 2016”

Reminder: Hillary Clinton never gained more than 3.5 points above Donald Trump (in fact in March of 2016, she was losing to him by 1 point)

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_clinton-5491.html

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Democrats 2020

I see good news for all Democrats. It's still very early in the primary. Best to raise up all the candidates in case one falters, scandal, etc. 

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ItsTommyBitch

Bernie is obviously electable, yes :fan: 

私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから

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Florin

Interesting numbers.

this means that a large part of his supporters dont identify themself as Democrats, no? :laughga:

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Ladey Gaygay
2 minutes ago, Florin said:

Interesting numbers.

this means that a large part of his supporters dont identify themself as Democrats, no? :laughga:

No ma'am:oprah:

It means that 46% of independent party voters would vote for Bernie in an election against trump and 28% would vote for the pig.

omg learn how to read-

𝖎 𝖘𝖑𝖊𝖊𝖕 𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖍 𝖌𝖚𝖞𝖘 𝖋𝖔𝖗 𝖋𝖚𝖓 𝖆𝖓𝖉 𝖉𝖗𝖚𝖌𝖘

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Florin
1 minute ago, Ladey Gaygay said:

No ma'am:oprah:

It means that 46% of independent party voters would vote for Bernie in an election against trump and 28% would vote for the pig.

omg learn how to read-

And yet, independents in the other poll said they dont like "socialists". :ladyhaha:

good for Bernie. Too bad for him that not only "independents" vote in general elections. :reductive:

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Gagaloo92
18 minutes ago, Florin said:

Interesting numbers.

this means that a large part of his supporters dont identify themself as Democrats, no? :laughga:

Not in the first question no. It is only polling Independents, not Democrats. 

And if that were the case, that's actually a benefit for Bernie considering he'll need Independents to defeat Trump. It can't just be Democrats and that goes for any Dem, they all will need independents, swing voters and even new voters to do so. 

We can assume nearly all Dems would vote for him considering they mostly just want to beat Trump. And according to this poll, Bernie will bring over the most Independents and the kind of voters we'll need to do so.

In the second poll from that tweet, he also does the best of all the Dems with all voters. Taken together this means he has the best chance of beating Trump. 

Now that's some electability! 

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Florin
2 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

Not in this poll no. It is only polling Independents, not Democrats. 

And if that were the case, that's actually a benefit for Bernie considering he'll need Independents to defeat Trump. It can't just be Democrats and that goes for any Dem, they all will need independents, swing voters and even new voters to do so. 

We can assume nearly all Dems would vote for him considering they mostly just want to beat Trump. And according to this poll, Bernie will bring over the most Independents and the kind of voters we'll need to do so.

In the second poll from that tweet, he also does the best of all the Dems with all voters, meaning he has the bets chance of beating Trump. 

Now that's some electability! 

And yet, some other candidates still do better than him against Trump with all the voters.

So I guess it's more complicated than that. But good for him. He has some momentum now.

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Gagaloo92
1 minute ago, Florin said:

And yet, some other candidates still do better than him against Trump with all the voters.

So I guess it's more complicated than that. But good for him. He has some momentum now.

What are you talking about? Did you not read the poll or? 

He is tied with Bloomberg and beating every other Dem in a head-to-head with Trump among all voters (the bottom half of the tweet). 

So no, no other candidate is doing better than him against Trump among all voters. 

You really try everything you can pull to undermine him and his success huh.

And yet you keep losing :interestinga:

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Florin
12 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

What are you talking about? Did you not read the poll or? 

He is tied with Bloomberg and beating every other Dem in a head-to-head with Trump among all voters (the bottom half of the tweet). 

So no, no other candidate is doing better than him against Trump among all voters. 

You really try everything you can pull to undermine him and his success huh.

And yet you keep losing :interestinga:

I am talking about the majority of polls, not just this one. And even in this one you say that Bloomberg does the same numbers with all voters. 

No one is denying that Bernie has a good momentum. We will see if he can keep it. So chill. No one is winning or losing here. :fail:

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Gagaloo92
9 minutes ago, Florin said:

I am talking about the majority of polls, not just this one. And even in this one you say that Bloomberg does the same numbers with all voters. 

No one is denying that Bernie has a good momentum. We will see if he can keep it. So chill. No one is winning or losing here. :fail:

Across polling, he's consistently performed better than the other candidates against Trump, and has consistently performed well with Independents against Trump. 

I'm not sure if you know this, but Independents and swing voters are who ultimately determine elections. Hillary lost with Independents to Trump, and this is a key reason why she lost the election. 

Obviously we will see. And this isn't directed at you, but those biased against Bernie really fail to acknowledge this reality. If they would look past their own bias, they could see the strength he has with Independents and why that is a strong case for him defeating Trump. I mean no other Dem really comes close to his numbers with Independents. 

And well, if you didn't continuously make some snide or passive aggressive remark about him in most if not all your posts about him, I wouldn't have to point it out. Especially when most of the time they don't pan out or age well :shrug:

 

 

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