Miel 15,009 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, lovedillon said: I personally didnāt have an issue with how men were portrayed in the film. I liked the film generally but I can see the obvious reasons why it didnāt connect with people... including the false advertising of gay representation between black mask & zsaz. Not to mention they barely touched on Harley being bi with a cartoon in the beginning while she plays love ārouletteā lol Oh I see what you mean now. Yeah, itās a shame that audiences are generally siphoned within one perspective (men, usually white)- and when that is challenged, thereās almost inherent backlash. Like, this isnāt even the most revolutionary perspective change as a movie! And yeah, while I think the cartoon montage of Harleyās bisexuality was cute, all I can simply hope for is that it is explored more in the future. At least I have enough faith in this creative team to know it wonāt be grossly oversexualized, if they do it. I donāt have much to say about Montoya except that I thought her sexuality was done well, without it being a focus at all. Interesting Ali Wong cameo as her ex, tbh. I also still canāt wrap my head around the relationship between Zasz and Mask, like... the acting chemistry was fantastic, and I get that it was meant to be diabolical and unhinged and almost a comical way of saying āthey hate women so much that theyāre so magnetized by their own selvesā but Iām still a bit torn in its portrayal? 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 17,522 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 When I saw the trailer the first thing I thought was "do we rly need a Harley Quinn spin off?"Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SissyFromSpace 20,883 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 trash article fake news women won Barbie elitist - Weaboo - Sissy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sepsami 17,522 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Spock said: they should reboot the whole thing yet AGAIN and come back when they have a plan Please no, let itĀ dieĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 5,555 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I don't see the point of blaming straight men, if it's an anti male movie then they shouldn't care/want/rely on male audiences to go see it. if just 50% of women in the US went to see it the movie would make over $1 Billion dollars, so why aren't enough women going to see it either? Maybe because it's less to do with sexism and more to do with a spinoff from a hated movie with boring promo and a not so obvious plot from the trailers. I thought it looked decent and I will see it at some point but not in cinemas. Blaming the audience is like a boring product blaming the customers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 10 hours ago, ReginaGeorge said: Ā this is the reason why it flops. People like you are the reason because of your out of this world statements.Ā He sounds like that video of that guy that got super pissed Joker didn't win Best Picture and that Parasite only won because it was "foreign" and the voters had a "woke agenda"Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 8 hours ago, Stephen said: Most comic books are read by adults! The idea that superheroes are only for kids just isnāt true. For decades Marvel and DC have had HUGE adult fan bases. So many comics include adult themes of sex, drugs, violence, murder etc.Ā Yes they make kid friendly cartoons and such but thatās not the whole picture.Ā I personally think (or hope) that super hero/comic bookĀ movies never go away. Why canāt it just be considered a genre that simplyĀ exists? They make tons of war movies all the time and I have no interest in war movies. But obviously a lot of people do so they keep making them. If anything I want to see more variety and creativity in comic book movies. You can still enjoy comic books leisurely but the way society and pop culture is now where nerdom has taken over almost every aspect and millenials resort to "adulting" when doing mundane tasks give off that we're creating an infantile society.Ā Bill Maher said this when Stan Lee died on his blog. Sure it was super harsh, especially because Stan Lee died, but it is still important to review ourselves and why we're not progressing as a society like generations before.Ā TL;DR It's okay to read comic books and be a fan but it's cringe to base your whole life around it.Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ltlmnstr 2,771 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 34 minutes ago, Defmix100 said: if it's an anti male movie Anti-misogyny =/= Anti-maleĀ Ā Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defmix100 5,555 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 3 minutes ago, ltlmnstr said: Anti-misogyny =/= Anti-maleĀ Ā I'm referring to the comments in here specifically saying anti man Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagzus 13,646 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I mean the biggest complaint from comic fans was that Harley wasnāt āsexyā enough like her comic counterpart. Which is a sad thing because the movie is so good when I went to see it, Iām gonna see it again on Tuesday as well with my bestie. I like that they had a lesbian character in the movie and her lesbianism wasnāt kinda her only character trait too! It was just sort of like āyeah sheās also gay and what about it?ā. i love the humour in the movie, like the fact that it says someone hates her because she voted for Bernie sanders lol My two complaintsĀ areĀ that only Harley is like her comic book counterpart, like Cassandra Cain is literally only similar in name only. And they only hint at Black Mask being gay/bi by making him be an artsy flamboyant man which irked me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kattys 4,319 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 11 hours ago, Ryusei said: Wonder Woman says hi https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wonder_Woman_(2017_film) Wonder Woman was awful, goddess that needs to rely on some random soldier, huge meh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParentalAdvisory 635 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 the title was **** anyway good they changed it, it was a lil too late but still better Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 87,465 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I feel like that should have been the title all along, the movie is 98% Harley and 2% BOP If you see me posting like crazy, I'm either bored or procrastinating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 10,363 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 14 hours ago, Wixson said: Sorry, but the director ain't the one to blame. They directed a film that received a higher score than expected & the RT score is alwaysĀ expected to drop once more critics weigh in. They should've promoted it more effectively and yes, its original name was ludicrous.Ā Also a drop to 80 is like every filmās dreamĀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
COOOK 76,405 Posted February 12, 2020 Share Posted February 12, 2020 I mean, that was one heck of a title for a movie. Everybody says heyĀ letās go watch the Harley Quinn movie, so they shouldāve known this by now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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