sillynate 6,170 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 23 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: Yeah I'm aware of this, as I said in a previous comment I avoid listening to anything produced by him even ones where he's a ghost-producer (that includes kesha's albums prior to rainbow). As for rainbow and highroad (as you said it's unclear whether he earns money from those or not), but if he does, in an article I posted earlier it's stated that the money doesn't go to him without kesha's permission or without her paying it to him (since she owes him interests money due to not paying him his royalties for a long time). So at least that's a way I can support her career in without dr *uke benefiting directly from her. This is just too confusing for me. Kesha needs help but not from someone like me some top tier music industry lawyers are what’s needed Another mess, I just realized this is the Kim Petras thread I legit thought this was the one about her losing the defamation case @ mods I’m so sorry for going off topic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloop 10,316 Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: Where did I say I'm better than others? There was a number of comments telling me if I don't listen to kim then I shouldn't listen to x, y and z so I clarified that I don't. I didn't attack any members here or judged them, all of my comments were about kim and luke, and all of them I was polite in. So I don't get where all this is coming from. "friendly reminder that by supporting kim you're putting money onto dr *uke's hands to destroy kesha's life even further" If you can't tell the the passive judgementality from this comment, then I don't know what else to say. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Sneaky said: "friendly reminder that by supporting kim you're putting money onto dr *uke's hands to destroy kesha's life even further" If you can't tell the the passive judgementality from this comment, then I don't know what else to say. What's judgemental in stating that by listening to kim you're supporting luke? Unlike that member I didn't quote you or any member in here and called you names or came for your personality, did I? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleepBloop 10,316 Posted February 10, 2020 Author Share Posted February 10, 2020 9 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: What's judgemental in stating that by listening to kim you're supporting luke? Unlike that member I didn't quote you or any member in here and called you names or came for your personality, did I? No you didn't, thanks for that. But you need to understand that coming into a thread about something as neutral as "music news" and then posting a comment like that, does bring along an air of judgement or entitlement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanmonster 28 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 32 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: His actions don't define her, true, but her willingness to work with him and support him does. If you don't think there's anything bad in not only associating with but also supporting a rapist/abuser then I don't know what to say. I think Kim would actually have a good heart tbh and you can think whatever you want about her or her fans, but in reality she’s not at fault for anything and the situation also doesn’t involve her whatsoever so I think that’s where you’re judging is a little too far. Kim has said she loves Kesha too. Also, it’s literally only with Kim Petras that Dr. Luke’s dark shadow gets brought up which I think is really actually telling of her success. People just love to find a reason to hate her and that actually takes me back to when Gaga first started Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Sneaky said: No you didn't, thanks for that. But you need to understand that coming into a thread about something as neutral as "music news" and then posting a comment like that, does bring along an air of judgement or entitlement If someone opens a thread about a new r kelly song you can expect similar responses. she's associating herself with a rapist and with that come these criticisms (and rightfully so). But it wasn't meant to be judgemental towards you or anyone, I pointed that fact out and then if people want to keep supporting her then it's on them. 6 minutes ago, ryanmonster said: I think Kim would actually have a good heart tbh and you can think whatever you want about her or her fans, but in reality she’s not at fault for anything and the situation also doesn’t involve her whatsoever so I think that’s where you’re judging is a little too far. Kim has said she loves Kesha too. Also, it’s literally only with Kim Petras that Dr. Luke’s dark shadow gets brought up which I think is really actually telling of her success. People just love to find a reason to hate her and that actually takes me back to when Gaga first started I don't think about her or her fans or her music, nor did I talk about any of that in my comments. I didn't say her music sucks or she's a bad person etc. My problem with her is her willingness to work with a rapist/abuser and that's where my criticism is. Everyone that works with him gets a wind of this criticism, most recently doja cat. It's just that she's the only one (as far as I know) who supports him openly so naturally she's the biggest target. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leblanc 2,478 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 44 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: Where did I say I'm better than others? There was a number of comments telling me if I don't listen to kim then I shouldn't listen to x, y and z so I clarified that I don't. I didn't attack any members here or judged them, all of my comments were about kim and luke, and all of them I was polite in. So I don't get where all this is coming from. I never said you said that. You can re-read if you like. I also never said you wasn't polite. I just feel like your waving your good deed here like a flag that's all. We are all capable of supporting bad people with or without realising. So if you think because you don't do x, y or z that makes you some saint you need a reality check. Coven Season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ParentalAdvisory 635 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 She has songs produced by Dr Luke ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ice bear 1 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 Lol woke people here don't even care about kesha just about grooming their egos and keeping a pristine pseudo-public image online Stream kim so she can grow bigger and dump luke's ass and save your time complaining and stream kesha if you're concerned ice heard one side from above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 12 minutes ago, LeBlanc said: So if you think because you don't do x, y or z that makes you some saint you need a reality check. I don't think I'm some saint, nor did I say that to begin with Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
APPLAUSE4YOU 443 Posted February 10, 2020 Share Posted February 10, 2020 I love Kesha and have went to several concerts. That said: I CANT WAIT FOR THIS SONG! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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