Admin 24,441 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Whispering said: Yep, Pete won Yaaaaas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Admin said: Yaaaaas Nope. Bernie won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Why are there no news reports that clearly state that Pete won though? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin 24,441 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, OG Gaga Stan said: Nope. Bernie won. So what's the truth? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Let me be clear. Bernie Sanders not only one the popular vote: he won the SDE count as well. He won Iowa. There are multiple, multiple documented, verified "errors" in the reporting that put Bernie over the top, "errors" that journalists have been notifying the Iowa Democratic Party of for days and we've heard absolutely nothing in response. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Admin said: Are the final results in? not yet. associated press says results aren't verfiable. Bernie campaign sent out a long list of numerous data errors. Bernie still won the most votes but they are tied with state delegates with pete. In other words, Jeb Bush won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Just now, Admin said: So what's the truth? The centrists in here are attempting to push what the Iowa Democratic Party reported, which is that Buttigieg won with .1% of the SDE, but it's just not true. The Associated Press and NBC have both refused to call the election for either Buttigieg or Sanders because of the endless errors that have been found in the reported results, errors that put Sanders over the top. There are also precincts that have not been reported yet, precincts that would also put Sanders over the top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 14 minutes ago, Whispering said: But your vote doesn’t even matter brobro. Yeah, right. Have fun with that orange carrot and the new judgements coming down the pike from the Supreme Court. I’m sure they won’t be aimed at minorities. I’m writing in a candidate in protest, because the party, government, two part system, voting process....doesn’t “work for me” at this exact moment in time. it matters when I vote in the NY primary for the eventual nominee of the party, Bernie, and centrists like you clutch your pearls. In which case I'll have fun when he defeats Trump by sizeable margins in November. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 To clarify further: Buttigieg claimed he had won with 0% of the precincts having been reported, virtually with absolutely no evidence. The press then spent days reporting as if he had won, citing SDE percentage counts that have nothing to do with the presidential race at all. The reported data out of Iowa has been found by the Associated Press and NBC to have been so compromised and riddled with errors that it is impossible to verify that the Iowa Democratic Party's reporting is at all accurate. Sanders has unquestionably won the popular vote and when these errors are accounted for, Sanders acquires a healthy lead in the SDEs as well. Therefore: Bernie won Iowa. If we were to take the interpretation that is least charitable to Sanders at face value, we would have to admit that while he won the popular vote by over 6000 votes, the SDEs have yet to be confirmed and that we're still waiting for verification. Here is a thread compiling all of the verified mistakes that we have confirmed so far: And here is the Sanders campaign's official response to the IDP's results, claiming victory and laying out an extremely lengthy list of errors in the IDP's reporting: Again, the New York Times' Nate Cohn, the Associated Press and NBC have all confirmed that these errors are legitimate and should be corrected. Additionally, precinct UAW 893 CD-1's results have not yet been reported. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 minute ago, Gov Hooka said: it matters when I vote in the NY primary for the eventual nominee of the party, Bernie, and centrists like you clutch your pearls. In which case I'll have fun when he defeats Trump by sizeable margins in November. I don’t own pearls, and I’ll be happy if Trump gets defeated by anyone in November. Are you going to throw a little progressive hissy fit and write someone who isn’t the nominee in if your fave doesn’t get the nomination? I will clutch my pearls and you can suck on your pacifier. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 2 minutes ago, Whispering said: I don’t own pearls, and I’ll be happy if Trump gets defeated by anyone in November. Are you going to throw a little progressive hissy fit and write someone who isn’t the nominee in if your fave doesn’t get the nomination? I will clutch my pearls and you can suck on your pacifier. Whoever wins the plurality if not majority of votes by the end of this primary season will receive my vote in November. If there is a brokered convention and super delegates do not elect the person who received the plurality of votes, even if that person isn't Bernie, I will not vote Democrat in November. It's simple... i want them to protect and honor democracy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 20 minutes ago, Admin said: So what's the truth? The Iowa Democratic Party has declared that Pete Buttigieg is the winner with 100% of the votes in. https://results.thecaucuses.org/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Admin said: Are the final results in? 30 minutes ago, Whispering said: Yep, Pete won Nope, we're 99.94% of the way there. Pete and Bernie are tied with 11 pledged delegates each. Pete has a slight advantage in SDEs (2 SDEs) and Bernie has an advantage in popular vote but the only thing that counts for the primary at the Democratic National Convention is the pledged delegates. And Pete and Bernie are tied in that regard. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Whispering said: The Iowa Democratic Party has declared that Pete Buttigieg is the winner with 100% of the votes in. https://results.thecaucuses.org/ And as I have laid out in detail above, their reporting has been confirmed to be inaccurate by the Associated Press, NBC and the New York Times. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 8 minutes ago, Whispering said: The Iowa Democratic Party has declared that Pete Buttigieg is the winner with 100% of the votes in. https://results.thecaucuses.org/ I would like to see where that "declaration" is. Pete supporters making things up just like him. All it shows is SDEs which we knew about. Edit: And the fact that it says "Please note: National Convention Delegates will not be published until all precincts and satellite sites have reported." proves they have NOT finished reporting all precincts and satellite sites. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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