ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 I already clocked someone earlier about the fact that the DNC has been in charge of the Iowa stuff and they essentially took over Honestly, I was blaming the IDP too for a while, but Tom Perez needs to NOT throw them under the bus like this, they tried to fix it and it was their interference that made this whole thing a bigger mess. 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, HorusRa2 said: https://twitter.com/jeffzeleny/status/1225472426894647296?s=20 This is probably the biggest debacle since the florida recount. Tom Perez should resign right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snorlax 6,370 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 We're just handing Trump the election at this point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gagaloo911 12,959 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 A nightmare. Literally a nightmare. The Democratic Party and the establishment that runs and controls it is so incompetent that it's unbelievable. Like they can't even get what should be a fairly simple process done in a small state with not that many people compared to many other states?? If they're this bad now, how can we trust them with more complex and larger states?? The whole lot of them need to resign or be fired and replaced. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 This is so stupid. Move on already. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Florin said: This is so stupid. Move on already. We were about to, and now we cannot 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Light the Iowa Caucuses on fire and throw Tom Perez on top for good measure 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 1 minute ago, ItsTommyBitch said: We were about to, and now we cannot I was talking about them. They cant fix that caucuses are a mess. And all for what? 1 more delegate? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said: A nightmare. Literally a nightmare. The Democratic Party and the establishment that runs and controls it is so incompetent that it's unbelievable. Like they can't even get what should be a fairly simple process done in a small state with not that many people compared to many other states?? If they're this bad now, how can we trust them with more complex and larger states?? The whole lot of them need to resign or be fired and replaced. Look at what I just posted before. Texas will be a mess. I live in Texas. I will check three times my selection on the machine cause I don’t trust anything at this point. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItsTommyBitch 12,640 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Florin said: I was talking about them. They cant fix that caucuses are a mess. And all for what? 1 more delegate? Oh look, we agree It is too late to do a recount that people should trust. The DNC specifically is not trustworthy, and the IDP is incompetent at best. There were errors, they were caught, but the DNC decided to slowly release the results PURPOSEFULLY, and there is no sense in doing a recount that we can't trust either. Just let it go. Bernie and Pete have the same congressional delegate count right now. The only obvious kii about this to me is that we are supposed to get the rest of the results, that may very well show Bernie as the outright winner of the Iowa caucuses, and that this announcement is made just before they were to be released is... not lost on me. This STILL denies Bernie the "I won" narrative, they just can't do it 私自身もこの世の中も誰もかれもが, どんなに華やかな人生でも, どんなに悲惨な人生でも, いつかは変貌し, 破壊され、消滅してしまう. すべてがもともとこの世に存在しない一瞬の幻想なのだから Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gov Hooka 8,008 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 This thing was a sham. Sanders could have won by even more and even if he did it would still be a sham. I hope Bernie supporters and undecided voters/first time voters who lean Bernie who are in NH, NV, and SC don’t feel disenchanted by this bullshit Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: They should have called a recount that same night and then publish the reviewed results. What’s interesting is didn’t they say they reviewed these results multiple times? Isn’t that why it’s taking so long? And yet there were CLEAR inconsistencies that HAD to be called out to be fixed? Come on. You can’t have a recount “that night” when the precinct captains have gone to bed or mailed the results by snail mail. You’ve got a bunch of volunteers who weren’t prepared, didn’t understand the new system, and got frustrated when they were put on hold for hours. The system relies on volunteers and doesn’t have a ton of funding at the state level. The caucus system is a mess, especially if it’s extremely close or if something goes wrong like this year. We clearly need to get rid of them and go to primary votes only. They tried to do that in 2016, maybe after this year they will go on and get rid of them altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,683 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Just now, Whispering said: You can’t have a recount “that night” when the precinct captains have gone to bed or mailed the results by snail mail. You’ve got a bunch of volunteers who weren’t prepared, didn’t understand the new system, and got frustrated when they were put on hold for hours. The system relies on volunteers and doesn’t have a ton of funding at the state level. The caucus system is a mess, especially if it’s extremely close or if something goes wrong like this year. We clearly need to get rid of them and go to primary votes only. They tried to do that in 2016, maybe after this year they will go on and get rid of them altogether. I said they should have called a recount that night, not that it should have been finalized that night. Instead, we got a gradual release of results that were inconsistent. Despite them saying they were being reviewed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorusRa2 5,005 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 They should either realign the number of delegates each state is worth or reduce the number of total available delegates and by doing so lowering the threshold to win the nomination. It's unfair for Iowa but IDK how they can do this so-called recount and yet somehow have people believe the results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othon 34,299 Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 Tom Perez should resign immediately. I’ve never seen a debacle like this before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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