darkchylde 14,857 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 21 minutes ago, Jose P said: What’s wrong with being a stripper tho? Stripping is a voluntary profession and many struggling women’s only option to make a living. if it's your only option it's not a voluntary profession. that's how classism works. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jose P 23,341 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, darkchylde said: if it's your only option it's not a voluntary profession. that's how classism works. Well yeah but they choose to do so still. By voluntary I mean no one really takes them to a club and force them to strip. It is indirectly not a choice many times, bc it’s their only option as you said. But I meant it in a different way. But these women still have no right to judge what other women choose to do with their bodies. Aren’t they supposed to be feminists? Sex trafficking is something that’s totally involuntary and disgusting that feminists should be rallying against. But stripping is totally fine. Same with prostitution (exempting pimping and trafficking ofc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, darkchylde said: "shut down" girl - there's no going around this. anyways stream physical when it comes put tomorrow 4 minutes ago, darkchylde said: if it's your only option it's not a voluntary profession. that's how classism works. The way they earned more money from her than every one of the ones complaining combined Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darkchylde 14,857 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: anyways stream physical when it comes put tomorrow i will, cause it's a bop 6 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said: The way they earned more money from her than every one of the ones complaining combined is that like, your point? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 25,164 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 45 minutes ago, Hades said: Those bitches are so sensitive. These days you cough and someone is suddenly bothered/offended. I mean, you could like affect my air, come on dude Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 50,303 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 32 minutes ago, darkchylde said: if it's your only option it's not a voluntary profession. that's how classism works. It still offers u a way out that u wouldn't have without it The system may be unfair when it forces ppl to do stuff they don't wanna do but that's a seperate point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlopSlurper 34,336 Posted January 30, 2020 Author Share Posted January 30, 2020 26 minutes ago, darkchylde said: is that like, your point? like, yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JINNOCIDE 3,828 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 48 minutes ago, Ryusei said: Going to a stripclub is anti-feminism? Uuuuhhh what happened to your body belongs to you and you get to decide what to do with it? Ridiculous. God this makes me so angry how can someone be this stupid? Exagerated wokeness is as worse as ignorance STAN RINA SAWAYAMA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derpmonster 22,412 Posted January 30, 2020 Share Posted January 30, 2020 I don't think it's actual feminists finding this offensive. This is Twitter trolls who don't even understand feminism. Check out iTunes data & graphs at CHARTPOP.live Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 14,922 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Well, I'm going to do some raining on the parade here and say that I'm glad women doing this kinda stuff is being called out. Some of them aren't even bi, so they've got no excuse. Let's just call a spade a spade here: women do this for clout, to look cool and be seen as a different kind of woman who's fine with their man going to strip clubs because they do too. They do it for show the same way that famous men do. It's the complete opposite of a feminist statement. This is the modern type of feminism that sexist men have tricked women into embracing because it feeds into their plan to see sexualised women everywhere and have women support it. To see them actively putting bills in their g-strings is particularly hard to watch. American strip clubs really need to stop this. In most international clubs, you can't touch the dancers in any way, shape or form. Putting money in someone's underwear is so degrading and as a feminist, I couldn't possibly do that. And this is speaking as a bi-curious woman who'd be genuinely delighted to look at women that way and have them dance on me. But I don't because it goes against my feminist principles. Your fantasy in your head is fine but real life sexualisation is not cool. 21 hours ago, GreenDiamond said: and im freaking done with canceling women who actively advocates equality and liberal values point your guns elsewhere Stripping is nothing to do with equality and liberal values. It's about keeping women down in society, making them out to be nothing more than pieces of meat, sold to the highest bidder. Strip clubs have helped in this brainwashing of society that it's something feminist and the world fell for it. Touting it as feminist keeps the shady, sad parts of the industry hidden and dispelled as extremely rare instances when they're anything but. 21 hours ago, Jose P said: What’s wrong with being a stripper tho? Stripping is a voluntary profession and many struggling women’s only option to make a living. These fake feminists are pretty much shaming strippers, which is ironic in my opinion. In that case, it's very sad that women have no option but to do this for a living. I don't see men becoming strippers because they have no other option. There's a reason why women exclusively go down this route because we encourage women to "use what they've got" to get somewhere in life in a way that we don't for men. We hardwire the sexualisation into women from an early age. They're not shaming strippers, they're shaming those who support the business of stripping and glamorise it. If no one went to strip clubs, they'd all shut down and the women would have to find other forms of employment that give them respect and dignity (not to mention, in some cases, more money, as it's a myth that all strippers are raking it in). The best way to end sexualisation is to stop supporting it. When there's no demand for something, it'll stop being made. By supporting it, you allow the cycle of degradation to continue. 21 hours ago, Ryusei said: Going to a stripclub is anti-feminism? Uuuuhhh what happened to your body belongs to you and you get to decide what to do with it? Ridiculous. God this makes me so angry how can someone be this stupid? It's not stupidity, it's having a moral compass. And the whole "it's their body and they can choose what to do with it" is very overblown considering that each club will decide how much you take off, how far you can go, how much you charge and how much you earn. American strippers don't earn as much as you'd believe but you should see the pittance international strippers make. I watched a documentary where UK strippers were taking it all off for private lapdances for just £10 a time, only £5 they were actually getting to keep. There's nothing empowering about getting it all out for a mere £5. That isn't even enough to cover your taxi ride home. And as they work freelance, so many girls went home with basically nothing. They all had a sadness in their eyes and couldn't wait to get out. Don't believe the hype that this is an empowering profession that women choose because they love it, call the shots and stack it up. That's pure Hollywood fantasy. 21 hours ago, Jose P said: Well yeah but they choose to do so still. By voluntary I mean no one really takes them to a club and force them to strip. It is indirectly not a choice many times, bc it’s their only option as you said. But I meant it in a different way. But these women still have no right to judge what other women choose to do with their bodies. Aren’t they supposed to be feminists? Sex trafficking is something that’s totally involuntary and disgusting that feminists should be rallying against. But stripping is totally fine. Same with prostitution (exempting pimping and trafficking ofc) You're very naive if you think no women is being forced into this. It happens all over the world. Probably the pimps think they're not doing as bad because they're not making the women have sex (but some probably do encourage that, to get even more money off the girls). Don't think that trafficking is just something that happens in the form of prostitution, the sex industry takes many forms and there's shady types looking to manipulate women at every turn. 20 hours ago, derpmonster said: I don't think it's actual feminists finding this offensive. This is Twitter trolls who don't even understand feminism. I'm a feminist and I'm offended. Because I actually believe in the traditional view of feminism which is that the worst thing a feminist can do is sexualise another woman, being no better than the men. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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