Sources: Sanders believes a woman can’t win

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3 minutes ago, ItsTommyBitch said:

"Look, I don't care about lying if it helps my worldview!" 

I hope you're proud of that one sis.

Also, yes, it would be easy actually  every campaign has a strategy to coerce on the fence voters for their canvassers, and electability comes up when talking to people. There are absolutely Warren canvassers who are saying "I like Bernie, but... he's divisive and we need the entire Democratic tent of voters to win, and moderates just wont vote for him, but Warren? She's liked by the progressives and moderates and will get stuff done" the same way Julian Castro at a rally yesterday said "25% of the country hates Biden, and 25% of the country hates Bernie, so lets vote for Liz, because everyone likes her" 

The difference being that one canvasser posted this document on his own, Bernie Sanders is not distributing that document to his canvassers and campaign to share with people, so all of the "reporting" here is inaccurate, shitty journalism.

I think you are talking about yourself. Pls dont put words in my mouth. 

Me admiting that there are political motivations behind every move of a candidate or campaign doesnt mean that I know for sure here that Bernie or Warren campaign is right regarding this conversation.

For me, this is an open conversation and it remains to be seen what Warren campaign has officially to say about this. 

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11 minutes ago, Florin said:

What are you talking about? The agreement to not attack each other was from 2018? 

Not endorsing Hillary in 2016 until after he couldn't win anymore, it sounds to me like a correct move from a friend that also maybe just wanted to have a democratic president. 

My point is that Warren is only Bernie’s friend when it’s convenient for her. The reason we are even having this conversation is because she’s trying to call sexism in order to surge last minute and win. I guarantee you this was a cooked up strategy by the many Clinton advisers in her campaign and she’s went along with it. 

 

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2 minutes ago, HorusRa2 said:

My point is that Warren is only Bernie’s friend when it’s convenient for her. The reason we are even having this conversation is because she’s trying to call sexism in order to surge last minute and win. I guarantee you this was a cooked up strategy by the many Clinton advisers in her campaign and she’s went along with it. 

 

That's a totally different conversation. Cant comment on other people feelings regarding politicians. Sorry. 

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2 minutes ago, Lion Heart said:

 

Just curious. Is there any progressive media who sees Warren point of view? Because if not, that is disgusting.

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Just now, Florin said:

Just curious. Is there any progressive media who sees Warren point of view? Because if not, that is disgusting.

No. What’s disgusting is Warren’s blatant lying and your refusal to believe it. Why else is Warren so quiet? If it were true, why isn’t she on CNN saying Bernie is lying about saying he never said what she and her campaign have said he said? 

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If Warren doesn’t come out and clarify this it’s going to be a mess. It is increasingly looking like her campaign planted this to smear Sanders. 

Blatant lies are not a good look. Her campaign will suffer. 

But they need to be coming after Biden tomorrow. None of this nonsense. 

 

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Warren is trailing in the polls after moving to the center on some issues, and she thinks running with this non-issue and embellishing things is going to help her? 

She's only going to keep dropping at this rate.. 

So disappointing because I've been rooting for her during this whole campaign in addition to Bernie. 

Whatever advisers she has who are advising her of these moves recently are doing her dirty and steering her in the wrong direction. 

It should be the two progressives going against Biden and the corporate Dems, not fighting amongst themselves.. 

This is exactly what the establishment and MSM want. Sad. 

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1 minute ago, HorusRa2 said:

No. What’s disgusting is Warren’s blatant lying and your refusal to believe it. Why else is Warren so quiet? If it were true, why isn’t she on CNN saying Bernie is lying about saying he never said what she and her campaign have said he said? 

She will probably have an answer sooner or later. 

The thing is this could be true or false. No one knows. Only them. How can people be so sure that Bernie or Warren are right and how comes that progressives are 100% from what I see on Warren s neck? This is really bad.  

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Okay but I do agree with this. Not because women are inferior in any way, but because the majority of American people are still somewhat internally sexist and won't vote a woman in yet. I'd love to see a woman win (the right woman, not just any woman for the sake of progression) and be the first female president. We can hope!

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10 minutes ago, Helxig said:

Okay but I do agree with this. Not because women are inferior in any way, but because the majority of American people are still somewhat internally sexist and won't vote a woman in yet. I'd love to see a woman win (the right woman, not just any woman for the sake of progression) and be the first female president. We can hope!

Hillary Clinton won the popular vote by over 3 million votes. 

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37 minutes ago, Florin said:

I think you are talking about yourself. Pls dont put words in my mouth. 

Me admiting that there are political motivations behind every move of a candidate or campaign doesnt mean that I know for sure here that Bernie or Warren campaign is right regarding this conversation.

For me, this is an open conversation and it remains to be seen what Warren campaign has officially to say about this. 

That is what your comment suggests. Understanding that people play political games is not the question, no one here doesn't know that. The question is why are they playing these games, and who does it benefit? In this case, this benefits Joe Biden, to the detriment of Elizabeth Warren AND Bernie Sanders, so progressivism loses, and incrementalist, gradualist b.s continues to be the law of the land (well, if Joe were to even win, which I don't think he will  )

Warren's official statement will be tomorrow, during the CNN hosted debate with the CNN hand picked audience where they line her up for a home run to give her an answer while Joe Biden smiles in the background having avoided any controversy right before Iowa, where it may line up with the announcement of the exact date of the impeachment trial, which will take Bernie + Warren out of the running, enough for Biden to potentially win Iowa and the nomination.

Bernie's response was:

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"It is ludicrous to believe that at the same meeting where Elizabeth Warren told me she was going to run for president,  I would tell her that a woman couldn't win," the Sanders said in the statement. "It's sad that, three weeks before the Iowa caucus and a year after that private conversation, staff who weren't in the room are lying about what happened."

"What I did say that night was that Donald Trump is a sexist, a racist and a liar who would weaponize whatever he could,"

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5 hours ago, PoshLife said:

lol klobuchar NOT passing up this opportunity

 

What she needs to do is stop voting to confirm Trump judges

Those homophobic judges are judges for life

She’s a hypocrite for saying she’s for equality. 

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3 hours ago, Whispering said:

Now, now, the Bernieites would tell you that everyone but Bernie is a “Republican”.

The only Democrat in this race is someone who has never been a Democrat. Lol

The purity tests and logic behind thinking only one person in the country is qualified is a huuuge stretch. 

1) Sanders supporters would tell you that some people running for the Democratic nomination have Conservative political beliefs that are closer to Republicans than traditional Democrats. Are they just lying or what? 

2) The only Good "Democrat" running in this race is the one who makes focusing on improving the lives of working and middle class people their priority, and not a back seat goal after corporatism. Why should Democrats continue to be the party of appeasing the rich and not helping the vast majority of people in this country? Serious responses only please.

3) It's only a purity test when someone cant meet them. I'm not going to apologize for having values or standards and not making excuses. It's not about "qualified" its about effectiveness. Is Joe Biden going to be a warrior fighting for the people that elected him regardless of their income or isn't he? Why should voters trust someone who has been dead wrong and even proudly wrong on most major policy issues in the last 30 years over someone who has been right? That seems silly to me