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22 minutes ago, Florin said:

1. What is wrong with that?

2. She endorsed Hillary in June at the end of the primary. Bernie already lost. He just didnt drop down cause wanted to go until the end, but it wasn't a path to victory anymore for him when she endorsed Hillary. So she basically endorsed her against Trump, which was the right thing to do. 

That's why I say this is an half truth. Technically, she endorsed Hillary, but the reality is the primary fight was over.  The prize was already somewhere else. 

1. Its not wrong to be friends with Hilary and take advice from her, im just saying shes not progressive. That is not a half truth, that is simply my personal opinion.

2. Everyone gave their support to either Hilary or Bernie, Warren waited for the end of the race to support Hilary unlike progressives like Tulsi who supported Bernie from the start. Also, you should endorse someone to boost the chance of them winning and she did not support Bernie. Would you call someone who endorses Trump because he won the primary not a Trump supporter? or do you only apply that to Democrats?

If you disagree, you can reply to me and argue about it, but dont tell me im a liar saying half truths.

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Please America please make him win :(:heart: Ever since Trump won, there has been a rise in nationalist right wing parties all over the world. It has even taken over my home country which is the world’s largest democracy. It’s depressing. :ohno:

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1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said:

1. Its not wrong to be friends with Hilary and take advice from her, im just saying shes not progressive. That is not a half truth, that is simply my personal opinion.

2. Everyone gave their support to either Hilary or Bernie, Warren waited for the end of the race to support Hilary unlike progressives like Tulsi who supported Bernie from the start. Also, you should endorse someone to boost the chance of them winning and she did not support Bernie. Would you call someone who endorses Trump because he won the primary not a Trump supporter? or do you only apply that to Democrats?

If you disagree, you can reply to me and argue about it, but dont tell me im a liar saying half truths.

1. That's all right. Just dont present an opinion like something truth  and dont base your argument on personal opinions, instead of facts. 

2. Again a lot of opinions from you and a change of positions. Now the problem isnt that she supported Hillary at the end of the primary, but that she didnt supported Bernie. This is a completely different statement than the one I've called an half truth and again the facts dont exist. You believe that she didnt do that because of x motive, when in reality there could be a lot of reasons. 

Regarding the trump thing, I would look at facts. If someone didnt support anyone until trump was clearly the winner, I would say that he / she is a trump supporter against Hillary, not against an opponent who lost the primary without his involvement. 

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36 minutes ago, Florin said:

1. That's all right. Just dont present an opinion like something truth  and dont base your argument on personal opinions, instead of facts. 

2. Again a lot of opinions from you and a change of positions. Now the problem isnt that she supported Hillary at the end of the primary, but that she didnt supported Bernie. This is a completely different statement than the one I've called an half truth and again the facts dont exist. You believe that she didnt do that because of x motive, when in reality there could be a lot of reasons. 

Regarding the trump thing, I would look at facts. If someone didnt support anyone until trump was clearly the winner, I would say that he / she is a trump supporter against Hillary, not against an opponent who lost the primary without his involvement. 

1. I did not present my personal opinion as facts, I said it was clear to me from the beginning that she was not a true progressive and gave my reasons why I think shes not.

2. I did not know that she supported Hilary at the very end till you informed me, that does not mean I said a half truth, I was just misinformed. And yes there is many other reasons why she did not support Bernie, but my personal opinion is because shes not a real progressive.

So if it was Trump vs Rubio at the end, and Bush did not endorse Rubio, instead he waited till the end and endorsed Trump, would you not consider him a Trump supporter? I personally would consider him one. Im sorry but you have responsibility for who you vote for, I dont care if you dont like who you vote for, at the end of the day, you do support them regardless of why you supported them.

You can disagree with me, I dont care, but dont call me a liar or that I give half truths. Disagreeing with you does not make me a liar. 

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1 hour ago, Faysalaaa said:

1. I did not present my personal opinion as facts, I said it was clear to me from the beginning that she was not a true progressive and gave my reasons why I think shes not.

2. I did not know that she supported Hilary at the very end till you informed me, that does not mean I said a half truth, I was just misinformed. And yes there is many other reasons why she did not support Bernie, but my personal opinion is because shes not a real progressive.

So if it was Trump vs Rubio at the end, and Bush did not endorse Rubio, instead he waited till the end and endorsed Trump, would you not consider him a Trump supporter? I personally would consider him one. Im sorry but you have responsibility for who you vote for, I dont care if you dont like who you vote for, at the end of the day, you do support them regardless of why you supported them.

You can disagree with me, I dont care, but dont call me a liar or that I give half truths. Disagreeing with you does not make me a liar. 

You say that you were misinformed, but at the same time you dont accept that your original statement presented a half truth? :huntyga:

Again, I'm not interested in discussing your opinions. You can believe what you want. That doesnt make it true.  :triggered: I was just pointing out that there are little facts behind your opinions.

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