xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 "Speaking as she released a paper called Scotland's Right to Choose, Ms Sturgeon said there should be a transfer of powers to hold another vote from Westminster to Holyrood - a so-called Section 30 order. The Scottish National Party leader said she would be sending her paper and a letter by post to Mr Johnson setting out what she said is a clear democratic mandate for another vote in Scotland. At last week's general election the SNP won 47 of the 59 Westminster seats in Scotland. Ms Sturgeon said she will call on the UK parliament to transfer powers to hold a new independence referendum to the Scottish Parliament and will publish the draft legislation for it. Admitting people ask her what she will do if Mr Johnson says no, she said she would consider all reasonable options and that "they should be under no illusion that this will be an end of the matter". "It is for the prime minister to defend why he believes the UK is not a voluntary union of equal nations. It is for him to set out why he does not believe people in Scotland have the right to self-determination. "And it is for the prime minister to explain why he believes it is acceptable to ignore election after election in Scotland and to over-ride a democratic mandate stronger than the one he claims for his Brexit deal." The first minister said she would act "reasonably and in a considered manner" and she expected the same of the prime minister. Mr Johnson is opposed to a second Scottish independence referendum. Ms Sturgeon said she would push for a "legitimate" vote. "The Scottish Government believes that right should be exercised free from the threat of legal challenge," she said. "We understand that a referendum must be accepted as legitimate, here in Scotland and the UK, as well as in the EU and the wider international community." The independence referendum in 2014 was, at the time, described by the then SNP leader Alex Salmond as a "once in a generation" vote. But supporters of independence argue that the UK's decision to leave the European Union represents a "material change" in the relationship between Scotland and the UK. Scotland voted to remain in the EU." https://news.sky.com/story/scottish-independence-sturgeon-to-demand-the-power-to-hold-another-referendum-11890282 Watch the full speech below: --------------- Just to explain the 'section 30'. Section 30 of the Scotland act is the transfer of power from Westminster to Holyrood to accept the result of a future referendum. We don't need it to hold a referendum, but having the section 30 ensures that Westminster legally accepts the result of the referendum so it would be the easiest and the best option for both parties. It is great that Nicola has finally sent the section 30 request. If Boris Johnson refuses, she can then take it to the courts... and it can go from there. Its happening guys We had a vote in 2014, it was not a "once in a generation vote" like what people said, and even then, there has been a significant change in circumstances as Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain in the EU and we face being dragged out against our will. Its time that Scotland was free 🏴🏴🏴 End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I wish you all the luck in the world. Just be sure that you can survive without the EU because Spain won't let you in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, corvus albus said: I wish you all the luck in the world. Just be sure that you can survive without the EU because Spain won't let you in Spain has said it would let an independent Scotland in years ago, along with the rest of the EU 27 https://www.thenational.scot/news/17819791.busted-but-spain-veto-scottish-membership-eu-/ End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0436 10,215 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I really hope Scotland get their 2nd referendum to stay or leave the UK. But if they vote to stay in the UK then Sturgeon must resign and if they vote to leave the UK there must be a law that states they cannot return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 28 minutes ago, S0436 said: I really hope Scotland get their 2nd referendum to stay or leave the UK. But if they vote to stay in the UK then Sturgeon must resign and if they vote to leave the UK there must be a law that states they cannot return. Well... has any country that left the UK returned? I hope people see the sense and wake upto the fact that the UK is a sinking ship, and an independent Scotland is a lifeboat to rescue away from a Tory UK End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivannn 1,150 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I hope Scotland becomes independent and joins EU. Englad is doomed with BoJo I am affraid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bionic 50,111 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Well... has any country that left the UK returned? I hope people see the sense and wake upto the fact that the UK is a sinking ship, and an independent Scotland is a lifeboat to rescue away from a Tory UK The whole world is a sinking ship...Scotland is nothing special and separatism isn't a proportionate response to any problems the world is facing now...Nicole and all other separatist leaders need to put their self-interests aside and think of the bigger picture #wakeup Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchHooker 8,600 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 @xoxo Craig I just knew this thread would be from you by just reading Nicola Sturgeon, you're a stan honey We need DarkGa with Bops so we can rule the industry again and learn the other popgirls how to snatch 'em wigs to ultimate baldness!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 5 minutes ago, DutchHooker said: @xoxo Craig I just knew this thread would be from you by just reading Nicola Sturgeon, you're a stan honey At this point we have to stan Nothing but respect for MY First Minister End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 30 minutes ago, bionic said: The whole world is a sinking ship...Scotland is nothing special and separatism isn't a proportionate response to any problems the world is facing now...Nicole and all other separatist leaders need to put their self-interests aside and think of the bigger picture #wakeup Nicola and the SNP aren't separatists. We want to open our doors, not close them. Brexit, which we did not vote for, is separatism at its finest. Why should Scotland just sit back and be used as a door mat? Why should Scotland be ruled by England? Independence is all about putting the power back into the hands of the Scottish people and be in amongst the other leaders on Europe and collaborate to tackle issues like climate change. We can't get on with everything that we need to because we do not control the full country. The whole world is not sinking, and if you really have that view then its very pessimistic. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DutchHooker 8,600 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Nicola and the SNP aren't separatists. We want to open our doors, not close them. Brexit, which we did not vote for, is separatism at its finest. Why should Scotland just sit back and be used as a door mat? Why should Scotland be ruled by England? Independence is all about putting the power back into the hands of the Scottish people and be in amongst the other leaders on Europe and collaborate to tackle issues like climate change. We can't get on with everything that we need to because we do not control the full country. The whole world is not sinking, and if you really have that view then its very pessimistic. Omg I just looked it up and Scotland has just 5 milllion inhabitants while Holland has 18 million and is like 5 times smaller than Scotland. Well I'm watching The Crown right now and Scottland really has an amazing landscape so I understand most of the country is just landscape. We need DarkGa with Bops so we can rule the industry again and learn the other popgirls how to snatch 'em wigs to ultimate baldness!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted December 19, 2019 Author Share Posted December 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, DutchHooker said: Omg I just looked it up and Scotland has just 5 milllion inhabitants while Holland has 18 million and is like 5 times smaller than Scotland. Well I'm watching The Crown right now and Scottland really has an amazing landscape so I understand most of the country is just landscape. Well thats mainly in the highlands infact, I think it was Marvel, secured a 5 year contract to film their movies in Scotland. Some of the Avengers is filmed in the Highlands! And because it is so beautiful, it drives up tourism End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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