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Tulsi Gabbard Votes PRESENT!


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PoshLife
16 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

I think Tulsi's response will be there is no clear evidence to vote on impeachment.

You're wrong on both counts. Her reasoning, which I do not agree with, was that she believes Trump IS guilty of wrongdoing but doesn't support the "political" way House Democrats pursued impeachment. So you were wrong about there being no evidence of wrongdoing (which there is), and you were wrong about her saying that (she didn't).

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LadariousGarage
56 minutes ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

So Tulsi Gabbard was the ONLY congressman to vote PRESENT in the Impeachment of Pres. Donald J. Trump!  I knew there was a reason(including her severely homophobic past) why I didn’t like this Hefa!  SMFH  

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SOURCE: https://www.thedailybeast.com/tulsi-gabbard-votes-present-in-impeachment-against-trump


 

I disagree with her on this, but I agree with her on most other things sooo.....  i'm still supporting her 

but gurl, this ain't a good look, its clear he committed a crime, just vote in favor of impeachment please

 

Also, she was like what, 20 when she was lobbying against gay marriage and lgbt rights, it was the late 90's, she has apologized multiple times for what she has done in the past, so stop saying Tulsi is homphobic please, (I may be wrong here so correct me) but she came out in support of gay marriage before Obama did

 

 

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En_Sabah_Nur
10 minutes ago, LadariousGarage said:

I disagree with her on this, but I agree with her on most other things sooo.....  i'm still supporting her 

but gurl, this ain't a good look, its clear he committed a crime, just vote in favor of impeachment please

 

Also, she was like what, 20 when she was lobbying against gay marriage and lgbt rights, it was the late 90's, she has apologized multiple times for what she has done in the past, so stop saying Tulsi is homphobic please, (I may be wrong here so correct me) but she came out in support of gay marriage before Obama did

 

 

She supported electro-shock therapy through her father’s vehemently homophobic organization!  That is wayyyy more than just not being for Gay Marriage!  If people can go way back into someone’s past, like Hillary Clinton and say she was a Republican back in the 60’s!!  Then this is fare fodder for her(Gabby) as well also...  :koons:

 

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LadariousGarage
Just now, En_Sabah_Nur said:

She supported electro-shock therapy through her father’s vehemently homophobic organization!  That is wayyyy more than just not being for Gay Marriage!  If people can go way back into someone’s past, like Hillary Clinton and say she was a republican back in the 60’s!!  Then this is fare fodder for her(Gabby) as well also...  :koons:

 

It was conversion therapy with her (openly homophobic) father when she was 17-18 now that i'm looking into it, its not okay, but she has apologized more times then I can COUNT for her past, I think its bad that she used to support it, but she is a person, and people changed, and from the looks of it she has changed, and has recently lobbied against conversion therapy. I think conversion therapy is disgusting, but I'm not going to fault a person in their 40's for stuff they said/were doing when they were a teenager. I prob said some stuff and was supporting some stuff years ago that I would not at all support now.

She is not the only candidate with a homophobic past to, Joe Biden supported conversion therapy years ago too.

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En_Sabah_Nur
2 minutes ago, LadariousGarage said:

It was conversion therapy with her (openly homophobic) father when she was 17-18 now that i'm looking into it, its not okay, but she has apologized more times then I can COUNT for her past, I think its bad that she used to support it, but she is a person, and people changed, and from the looks of it she has changed, and has recently lobbied against conversion therapy. I think conversion therapy is disgusting, but I'm not going to fault a person in their 40's for stuff they said/were doing when they were a teenager. I prob said some stuff and was supporting some stuff years ago that I would not at all support now.

She is not the only candidate with a homophobic past to, Joe Biden supported conversion therapy years ago too.

I don’t really support him either(I say really just in case he does get the nomination & then I will vote for him for the greater good), but the fact that her record tends toward CONSERVATIVE Democrat & her not voting to impeach Trump either doesn’t help her current cause/run for the White House. ....And speaking of her father, I haven’t seen him with her?!  Where has he been hiding?!?!  🤔🤔🤔

 

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LadariousGarage
1 minute ago, En_Sabah_Nur said:

I don’t really support him either(I say really just in case he does get the nomination & then I will vote for him for the greater good), but the fact that her record tends toward CONSERVATIVE Democrat & her not voting to impeach Trump either doesn’t help her current cause/run for the White House. ....And speaking of her father, I haven’t seen him with her?!  Where has he been hiding?!?!  🤔🤔🤔

 

Conservative Democrat? she's pretty far left, at least more far left than most other candidates

I agree, not voting to impeach trump ain't a good look though

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I disagree with Tulsi's reasoning for not impeaching Trump, she sounds like a moderate! But I do agree that he should not be impeached based on the Ukraine phone calls.
 

 

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9 hours ago, M Monstre said:

What more evidence do you need though? All of this is very clear. If you need more  evidence, then blame the White House. They are literally withholding witnesses and then blaming Democrats for this "witch hunt" that has "no evidence" to support impeachment.

Well there is no clear evidence, just like there is no clear evidence about Biden and his son, but we all know its true. Impeachment should be done based on a serious crime with clear evidence. Is it legal to withhold witnesses? if yes then Americans should be against that and ask for information, but impeaching based on the ukraine phone call is not enough for me. I support impeachment based on other things he has done, not this though.

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32 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said:

I disagree with Tulsi's reasoning for not impeaching Trump, she sounds like a moderate! But I do agree that he should not be impeached based on the Ukraine phone calls.
 

 

Lucky, then, that he’s also being impeached for obstruction of justice which the evidence is basically slapping you in the face with its disco stick it’s so blatant.

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10 minutes ago, Ziggy said:

Lucky, then, that he’s also being impeached for obstruction of justice which the evidence is basically slapping you in the face with its disco stick it’s so blatant.

No there is no clear evidence of obstruction, and you cant prove intentions. But why impeach him on these things when we have 100% clear evidence of him breaking the law? like taking money from foreign governments and the yemen war? these are not debatable things and have nothing to do with intentions, and they are much more serious.
 

 

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Gagaloo911
10 hours ago, Faysalaaa said:

He already broke the law in the Yemen war, and is taking illegal money from foreign governments. None of this is debatable, they are facts. They wont impeach him based on that because Democrats do the exact same thing and dont want to risk being impeached themselves for illegal wars. Just like how Pelosi did not impeach Bush because she was also informed by the illegal torture of Bush, so impeaching Bush would make her guilty too.

I get what you're saying here and agree with you. 

But asking for a foreign government to dig up dirt on your political rival is literally against ACTUAL US laws and flies in the face of the US Constitution. Which means it's impeachable. 

And Trump himself admitted to it on national television, not to mention his White House released a transcript confirming that it happened. 

It doesn't get any clearer than that so not sure what you're smoking :smh:

 

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