Katy Perry not living for charts anymore

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9 hours ago, Runway said:

It only makes sense since she will never come back to them

Are you 100 % sure?

[Goodtimes12128 230]

She got her nun-less compound and millions of dollars, but deep down I think she still kind of cares about chart positions 

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I guess she just doesn't live for the charts, the charts, the charts, doesn't love for the charts charts, live for the charts charts, live for the 

[Didymus 34,380]

5 hours ago, ReginaGeorge said:

What was your view on Gaga sharing her personal life stories and saying stuff like “now I’m happy to wake up with myself”? 

I thought it was bull I don't necessarily think it's bad to talk about that stuff and Gaga has done it beautifully during some occasions but it can't be an excuse to not deliver artistically.

Gaga and her team chose an effective PR strategy to re-brand herself as a woke artist who left behind her embarrassing antics but it didn't translate into superior musical quality She's played the "this time I'm really happy"; "in my last era I actually wasn't really happy"; "this is my first real album" card way too much without stepping up her artistic game. It's just blabber to fill the tabloids (to me).

Gaga's early brilliance was found exactly in the fact that she chose not to be a celebrity, to not talk about boyfriends and other irrelevant personal problems. She used to say "I only like social media to communicate about my work" and that she intentionally left her personal life outside of the public eye because that was none of their business and she wanted people to focus on the art. Now she has flipped the switch 180 degrees. She actually prefers it now that we talk about a movie she acted in and a make-up collection she co-created rather than her performances and musical releases. I don't like that.

Same with Katy now. It's better for her team if people talk about her and Orlando Bloom instead of her music. 'cause at least she's still talked about!!! But that's selling out hardcore. And Gaga's gone down the same path (imo).

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Music not the bling teas. You go sell your shoes, Katherine. 

[Didymus 34,380]

9 hours ago, FameHookah said:

Well, have some empathy

Let her family, friends and partner have empathy. I don't even know her. People get way too attached to these figures omg. They don't give a crap about us. They literally want us to pay for their lifestyle

I like Katy a lot and I think if I did meet her I'd get along with her swimmingly. But her being happy right now shouldn't stimulate a different reaction than if literally any random stranger on the planet is happy Sure, I'm happy that Katy's happy, just like I'm happy that some other random woman in the U.S. is happy right now. Fine. But can we talk about something more interesting than that?

8 hours ago, derpmonster said:

I stanned Gaga not for Poker Face or for Bad Romance but for the message of Born This Way and Til It Happens To You. She is not just a "brand" to me, I feel a connection to her which is different from a usual popstar/fan connection. I am sure there are people who feel similarly about Katy and Katy does about them. Many of us do want the human side of them. That's what makes them artists and not just machines that can arrange and spit out music. Who are you to want them to shut up and focus on the brand?

So if artists focus on their art they're machines who mechanically put out music? How about the "focus on the work and I'll leave my personal life for the people in my actual personal life instead of strangers online" alternative?

You may think it's psychologically healthy (what a laugh) to feel a personal connection with someone who's literally trying to manipulate you through a variety of means to pay for music, concert tickets, merchandise, make-up, skateboards, "Love Bravery" bracelets, a perfume she didn't even want to make,... but I'm never gonna be convinced about that, I'm afraid Sure, we feel a connection to artists, because their work, words and actions speak to us on a personal level. We imagine a relationship, a kinship into being but that doesn't mean it's real and it doesn't mean it's fair to exploit it commercially either

But it's pop music, so hey, what are you gonna do, that's what makes the whole genre live and breathe. So I'm not hating on anyone who does that, it's part of the game. But I'm just tired of some aspects of it, especially the super trendy "let's focus on the person instead of the music because pop stars are dying rn and this is the only way people find us interesting" scheme of the last couple of years It's insulting.

Find a way to make (your) pop music interesting again, Katy. Improve your craft. Don't be lazy and try to wrap up your failure in a "I no longer need to be on top" narrative. I know you're not on top anymore, don't worry. But give me something else to talk about than you supposedly not caring anymore because it's definitely not showing in your latest generic radio trash pop output (love some of the songs and vids tho )

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It seems like she keeps telling herself that and never fully accepts it because she mentions it again and again... Usually that's a sign of something you want to believe and feel but don't

 

But anyway I'm glad she has that mindset or at least trying to work towards it if she doesn't fully have it yet like I suspect

 

She has a networth of over $300M... And she has made a mark in music that won't easily be easily forgotten anytime soon

 

It's perfectly ok if she doesn't have hits anymore and she will be perfectly fine and set for life.

 

Taking more time to enjoy and appreciate things like family and fiancé? That's great and it's what I'd do in her position tbh

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1 hour ago, Goodtimes12128 said:

She got her nun-less compound and millions of dollars, but deep down I think she still kind of cares about chart positions 

I do too otherwise she wouldn't keep mentioning that's she's moved on

 

But again, she will be fine... All artists reign eventually ends in the charts no exception...

 

She can still have a career for fun and she has enough money to last her life and pursue hobbies and more free time with family

 

U don't have to keep scoring #1s or top 10s forever nobody does... Even the biggest legends eventually fail to produce their hits when their time with the GP is over but it doesnt matter

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4 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Gaga and her team chose an effective PR strategy to re-brand herself as a woke artist who left behind her embarrassing antics but it didn't translate into superior musical quality She's played the "this time I'm really happy"; "in my last era I actually wasn't really happy"; "this is my first real album" card way too much without stepping up her artistic game. It's just blabber to fill the tabloids (to me).

So damn accurate 

 

 

On topic: as for Katy Perry, meh. This kind of talk is always hard to listen to when it comes from a major pop star. It's the stan culture/pop culture problem, idolising everything about celebrities. Unfortunately I don't earn millions to step down from my job whenever I want, but I value family and friends and all that just as much 

Only thing that backs her up for this, for me, is that at least when her projects flop she still dedicates herself to them. I was really, really surprised with how she kept releasing new singles out of Witness, even though they were failing miserably. I don't think I know one single major pop star who would not give up sooner.

But then, I don't buy this new "stand-alone" singles strategy as well. I'm pretty sure there was a full album prepared if "Never Really Over" had been successful.

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3 minutes ago, AlexanderMagno said:

This kind of talk is always hard to listen to when it comes from a major pop star. It's the stan culture/pop culture problem, idolising everything about celebrities. Unfortunately I don't earn millions to step down from my job whenever I want, but I value family and friends and all that just as much 

THIS omg.

Basically what I wanted to say and completely failed to do, making me sound like a total hater instead You distilled all of my paragraphs into these few sentences, bravo

Also agree with the rest of your post.

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1 minute ago, Didymus said:

THIS omg.

Basically what I wanted to say and completely failed, making me sound like a total hater instead You distilled all of my paragraphs into these few sentences, bravo

Also agree with the rest of your post.

Every person here who is able to see behind the pop marketing is a hater, don't be afraid to sound like one 

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I don't think charts are as vital as they once were. Touring is where the real money is at. She's still a touring force and as long as she can sell out arena's, she'll be fine.

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isn't she the "another one in the basket" girl

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Uh huh sure

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3 hours ago, AlexanderMagno said:

Every person here who is able to see behind the pop marketing is a hater, don't be afraid to sound like one 

I can see behind the marketing too but I want to believe the illusion. It takes the magic away if you analyse it too deeply.