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As much as I understand that when it comes to pop music charts matter because labels profit off of it and they do reflect in a way or another what people are listening to, I think it's nice for mainstream artists (or every artist, really) to harbor this mentality that it's not about quantity but quality and that they should ultimately be happy with their creative output regardless of how much commercial success it attains.

I'm not really her fan and haven't heard a lot of her music aside from Teenage Dream but I think Katy has the potential to grow as an artist and put out some quality work. Whether her chart performance will improve or not we can't foresee but that's really not the most important thing in the world nor the ultimate goal (to her label it is, let's not be naive, but still...).

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24 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Ugh I’m sick to death of artists “growing up” when they stop dominating the scene. It’s a way too predictable cover-up strategy at this point :rip:

Most artists give up easily. Madonna was the only old artist thirsty for charts up until Rebel Heart. 

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magine the year 2040. a young gay boy is getting into pop music. he has a fave, she debuted in like 2035 an is currently the biggest pop-star in the world, he loves her and stans her to death. he's obviously heard of the likes of lady gaga, taylor swift, beyonce etc, he doesn't know that much about them, but knows that they are regarded as legends, still release albums that (barely) go number one, they tour stadiums and some of his peers even stan them. he will eventually get really into them and would come to love albums like born this way, 1989, lemonade. he'd even wish he were alive back in the day to witness them in their peak, they must have been unstoppable, he thinks. at the same time he stumbles across a pop-singer by the name of katy perry. the name sound vaguely familiar perhaps but that's about it. this girl peaks his interest and he googles "katy perry discography". he clicks on the wikipedia link and goes through her discography. he sees that her debut song went number one and her first album did decent numbers. he then sees that she actually got 5 number one singles off her second album! Wow, how has he never heard of her? he opens spotify and goes to her page. listens to 2 or 3 of her most streamed songs. Yeah, he knows those songs, but never knew they were sung by this katy girl... he then goes back to her discography page and sees that her 3rd album didn't really sell that much and the songs from it didn't go number one... he thinks to himself "hmmm, I wonder why in the span of 3 years she couldn't get a number one again". he feels it: that was the beginning of the end. then he sees all the other singles she's released: one charted 15 in 2019 ("not great, but not bad either" he thinks), but then everything after that just...... failed spectacularly. he also sees that 2019 is the year in which she failed to chart on the BB Hot 100 with a single for the first time.. he's flabbergasted: this girl that got 5 number ones from an album couldn't even chart 6 years later.... he googles "what happened to katy perry" and starts reading articles from like 2028 that tries to explain it, another one entitled "remember singer katy perry" from 2036 etc, yet he still doesn't understand. how have all of her peers succeeded to maintain enough relevance for him to know them or at least have heard of them, yet this girl seem to have just been erased from the cultural zeitgeist of the 10s almost overnight? he sees that after her 2017 album she continued to release albums: the first one charted at like number 7 on the BB 200, the second one 24, the one after that 89 or smth like that. her last album was released just 6 years ago, in 2034, but it's evidently failed to chart altogether... the same night during supper he asks his parents about her. there is a little pause with his parents seeming a bit confused, but one of them says "oh, yeah, sure I remember katy perry. now that's a name from the past, huh... she got famous with like gaga and swift and beyonce, right? oh, yeah, i remember her know... hmmm, i wonder what happened to her?"

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40 minutes ago, Lighter said:

She tries to make us stream but she is really laughing because she just loves her family not the charts-a, family not the charts-a:party:

 

:reductive:

 

No but on a serious note, there does come a time in every artists career where they realise they want to focus on themselves & close relatives as opposed to giving other people what they want, that is fair. I’m sure she could demand a real hit anytime she wants at Capitol. 

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11 minutes ago, Dolce Vita said:

magine the year 2040. a young gay boy is getting into pop music. he has a fave, she debuted in like 2035 an is currently the biggest pop-star in the world, he loves her and stans her to death. he's obviously heard of the likes of lady gaga, taylor swift, beyonce etc, he doesn't know that much about them, but knows that they are regarded as legends, still release albums that (barely) go number one, they tour stadiums and some of his peers even stan them. he will eventually get really into them and would come to love albums like born this way, 1989, lemonade. he'd even wish he were alive back in the day to witness them in their peak, they must have been unstoppable, he thinks. at the same time he stumbles across a pop-singer by the name of katy perry. the name sound vaguely familiar perhaps but that's about it. this girl peaks his interest and he googles "katy perry discography". he clicks on the wikipedia link and goes through her discography. he sees that her debut song went number one and her first album did decent numbers. he then sees that she actually got 5 number one singles off her second album! Wow, how has he never heard of her? he opens spotify and goes to her page. listens to 2 or 3 of her most streamed songs. Yeah, he knows those songs, but never knew they were sung by this katy girl... he then goes back to her discography page and sees that her 3rd album didn't really sell that much and the songs from it didn't go number one... he thinks to himself "hmmm, I wonder why in the span of 3 years she couldn't get a number one again". he feels it: that was the beginning of the end. then he sees all the other singles she's released: one charted 15 in 2019 ("not great, but not bad either" he thinks), but then everything after that just...... failed spectacularly. he also sees that 2019 is the year in which she failed to chart on the BB Hot 100 with a single for the first time.. he's flabbergasted: this girl that got 5 number ones from an album couldn't even chart 6 years later.... he googles "what happened to katy perry" and starts reading articles from like 2028 that tries to explain it, another one entitled "remember singer katy perry" from 2036 etc, yet he still doesn't understand. how have all of her peers succeeded to maintain enough relevance for him to know them or at least have heard of them, yet this girl seem to have just been erased from the cultural zeitgeist of the 10s almost overnight? he sees that after her 2017 album she continued to release albums: the first one charted at like number 7 on the BB 200, the second one 24, the one after that 89 or smth like that. her last album was released just 6 years ago, in 2034, but it's evidently failed to chart altogether... the same night during supper he asks his parents about her. there is a little pause with his parents seeming a bit confused, but one of them says "oh, yeah, sure I remember katy perry. now that's a name from the past, huh... she got famous with like gaga and swift and beyonce, right? oh, yeah, i remember her know... hmmm, i wonder what happened to her?"

Ngl I shed a tear reading this. It's so powerful :diane:

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41 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Ugh I’m sick to death of artists “growing up” when they stop dominating the scene. It’s a way too predictable cover-up strategy at this point :rip:

Yes. She's just over. That's the truth. 

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32 minutes ago, gagaweekly said:

Or maybe it's the way they deal with going downhill. Every human being does self-justification. Those artists are human too, not just brands.

So what? I don't need constant reminders they're human. Of course they are. So are we. Is it meaningful for us non-celebs to go around telling everyone it's not just about making money? The most boring, white-person-with-too-much-time-on-their-hands comment possible. Why pop stars and their fans think it's interesting for them to repeat it in an interview context is totally beyond me.

We don't want your human side. We want your brand. Deliver it and talk to your friends about balancing pop star life with your relationship. I don't care.

30 minutes ago, PhillipBagshaw said:

It’s not a coverup? It’s then realizing that when they aren’t at the top of the world it doesn’t matter, that there are more important things to worry about. 

Right. Just like there are more important things to worry about than to hear Katy friggin' Perry talk about how it makes her happy to be with her family and fiancé. Like, who gives a ****, honestly. I'm tired of these pop stars thinking their banal life stories are worth listening to. Do your job like the rest of us.

21 minutes ago, derpmonster said:

Well yeah but it's also a natural thought process that goes through their minds.

When you're at the top, you delude yourself into thinking you're untouchable. You think it won't happen to you. You live for the success and love it.

When you stop having that success, you have to reevaluate your priorities and some of it leads naturally to learning to care less about charts or commercial success. There's likely still going to be some desire to succeed commercially but failure is one of the biggest things that would make one change their opinion on commercial success. It's not always a "cover up" :rip:. Things aren't that black and white.

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And I say this as someone who couldn't care less about Katy.

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This will cost me reputation points but I actually dislike her especially since the guy from the Teenage Dream video made his claims.

 

 

It might not be a black and white cover-up situation for her, but it definitely is for her label and all they care about is strategy :laughga: When in doubt just try to make headlines saying you're happy with your relationship!!! It works every time which is the pathetic thing. Whatever they can make her say to get into the spotlight and have people say "awww Katy I'm glad she's found happiness" (like we give a flying ****) they will make her say. It's tragic.

Just my opinion anyway :emma: I'm just here for the music and the art. And I can't stand people applauding pop stars for mentioning some of their personal feelings. That's not news. That's not an event. It's a waste of our time. If Katy really cared about shuffling priorities she would tell us to stop buying her basic music and focus on living our own lives. But no, she's still playing the game, trying to get us to spend money on her. So yes, it actually is black and white in that context. Either she wants us to believe her brand or she has to quit and allow us to move on from her. But of course she won't do that, now would she? And that's what annoys me. Play the game or leave it.

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1 hour ago, teawhore said:

this is so misconstrued... her manager told her that E.T. was underperforming in the UK and she calmly responded “Was it worth it releasing it even?”

Fixed it

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1 hour ago, Didymus said:

Ugh I’m sick to death of artists “growing up” when they stop dominating the scene. It’s a way too predictable cover-up strategy at this point :rip:

Well, have some empathy, im going thru the same **** rn and let me tell you, flopping makes you put things in perspective.

Why dwell on that? You just have to be grateful for what you have and try to be happy, and move on.

Its useless to get depressed because of low numbers and then cancel everything ala ARTPOP.

She's still rich and has fans, not as many as before but still.

Same goes for gaga, and everyone else.

 

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1 hour ago, nenhures said:

Ngl I shed a tear reading this. It's so powerful :diane:

It was amazing. 

@Dolce Vita did you write all that? I saved the post because it was so good. :diane:

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1 hour ago, Didymus said:

We don't want your human side. We want your brand. Deliver it and talk to your friends about balancing pop star life with your relationship. I don't care.

 

Sis what :rip: Sorry, this may be what you want, not what we all want. I said this before and I'll say it again. I stanned Gaga not for Poker Face or for Bad Romance but for the message of Born This Way and Til It Happens To You. She is not just a "brand" to me, I feel a connection to her which is different from a usual popstar/fan connection. I am sure there are people who feel similarly about Katy and Katy does about them. Many of us do want the human side of them. That's what makes them artists and not just machines that can arrange and spit out music. Who are you to want them to shut up and focus on the brand?

1 hour ago, Didymus said:

Either she wants us to believe her brand or she has to quit and allow us to move on from her. But of course she won't do that, now would she? And that's what annoys me. Play the game or leave it.

Should've unstanned during the ARTPOP era then. "I try to sell myself but I am really laughing because..." must sound very annoyingly contrived to you.

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1 hour ago, Dolce Vita said:

magine the year 2040. a young gay boy is getting into pop music. he has a fave, she debuted in like 2035 an is currently the biggest pop-star in the world, he loves her and stans her to death. he's obviously heard of the likes of lady gaga, taylor swift, beyonce etc, he doesn't know that much about them, but knows that they are regarded as legends, still release albums that (barely) go number one, they tour stadiums and some of his peers even stan them. he will eventually get really into them and would come to love albums like born this way, 1989, lemonade. he'd even wish he were alive back in the day to witness them in their peak, they must have been unstoppable, he thinks. at the same time he stumbles across a pop-singer by the name of katy perry. the name sound vaguely familiar perhaps but that's about it. this girl peaks his interest and he googles "katy perry discography". he clicks on the wikipedia link and goes through her discography. he sees that her debut song went number one and her first album did decent numbers. he then sees that she actually got 5 number one singles off her second album! Wow, how has he never heard of her? he opens spotify and goes to her page. listens to 2 or 3 of her most streamed songs. Yeah, he knows those songs, but never knew they were sung by this katy girl... he then goes back to her discography page and sees that her 3rd album didn't really sell that much and the songs from it didn't go number one... he thinks to himself "hmmm, I wonder why in the span of 3 years she couldn't get a number one again". he feels it: that was the beginning of the end. then he sees all the other singles she's released: one charted 15 in 2019 ("not great, but not bad either" he thinks), but then everything after that just...... failed spectacularly. he also sees that 2019 is the year in which she failed to chart on the BB Hot 100 with a single for the first time.. he's flabbergasted: this girl that got 5 number ones from an album couldn't even chart 6 years later.... he googles "what happened to katy perry" and starts reading articles from like 2028 that tries to explain it, another one entitled "remember singer katy perry" from 2036 etc, yet he still doesn't understand. how have all of her peers succeeded to maintain enough relevance for him to know them or at least have heard of them, yet this girl seem to have just been erased from the cultural zeitgeist of the 10s almost overnight? he sees that after her 2017 album she continued to release albums: the first one charted at like number 7 on the BB 200, the second one 24, the one after that 89 or smth like that. her last album was released just 6 years ago, in 2034, but it's evidently failed to chart altogether... the same night during supper he asks his parents about her. there is a little pause with his parents seeming a bit confused, but one of them says "oh, yeah, sure I remember katy perry. now that's a name from the past, huh... she got famous with like gaga and swift and beyonce, right? oh, yeah, i remember her know... hmmm, i wonder what happened to her?"

"Beyonce and I were superstars together and then people forgot about me" teas :air:

Go to fanfic.net sis

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