Countries With Heaviest Population Declines For Next 30 Years

[Guest Adarsh]

7 minutes ago, Economy said:

I don't know what the youngest Country is... Is it Saudi Arabia?

 

I know like 2/3 of their population is under 30

 

Edit: it's Niger... And the rest of the top 10 are mostly African nations as well due to low life expectancy and high death rates

 

Over 50% of Niger's population is under 15

I meant the country with the world’s highest youth population. India has more than 350 million young people. 

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1 minute ago, ltlmnstr said:

I’m curious as to why the majority of the countries listed are white. Here in america, white men are increasing in numbers of infertility. 

Is it because of high consumption of processed food? 
 

Lol no

 

Developed nations had rapidly falling birth rates since the 1960s mainly because birth control became increasingly common and easily available and also because women started having more careers and always having children became unpractical

 

Almost every developed nation has had birth rates below replacement rate for years. But the ones that don't have much immigration helping them offset this have it the worst (as is the case with most on this list)

 

Countries like Canada, USA, UK, Australia still have growing populations largely because immigration is relatively high

 

Developed Nations with less immigration like Japan, Italy, Greece, Portugal, Romania, Bulgaria etc etc etc have been declining for years

 

And Germany has solid immigration but their population is almost flat. Probably because their birth rate is just that low and their population too old and immigration alone isn't cutting it

[Economy 53,162]

3 minutes ago, Adarsh said:

I meant the country with the world’s highest youth population. India has more than 350 million young people. 

Oh

 

Well when it comes to sustainability, trends, economic impacts etc, the proportion is far more important than the total

 

Japan (the most aged society in the world) with 130 Million people obviously has more TOTAL young people than say my Country Canada with 38 Million people...

 

It doesn't change the fact that with 26% of their population over 65 they are considered a "super aged society"

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8 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

these are developing countries 

only japan isnt

I mean... Most on the list are developed Countries actually... They are just lower tier developed Countries (less wealthy)

[StrawberryBlond 15,701]

It is 2050, which isn't exactly in the near future but still shocking. But who's to say that new policies won't come up that will improve the economy or encourage people to have more children? Just because these are the predictions now doesn't mean it'll still hold true in 30 years. A lot can change in that time. But still, it's depressing to see so many small countries with small populations as it is decrease ever further.

17 hours ago, Postboy said:

What is the real impact of population decline to an economy? Sure their GDP will go down, but does that mean that people will be suffering? I honestly can’t imagine a country like Japan ever becoming a third world country just because of pop decline 

The biggest cause of suffering that comes from a declining population is that there's so many jobs that need to be done and there won't be enough people around to do them anymore. This is particularly problematic in the health industry. And a lower population means people who rely on customers for their work will now have less custom, meaning they'll lose their job or their business goes under. This is why I think people who encourage people to stop having children aren't seriously thinking of the consequences. Every country needs to have a solid replacement rate if they want to operate comfortably and properly. If everyone stopped having children right now, we'd be up the creek in just a few short years and the human race would die out inevitably.

13 hours ago, ltlmnstr said:

I’m curious as to why the majority of the countries listed are white. Here in america, white men are increasing in numbers of infertility. 

Is it because of high consumption of processed food? 
 

It's nothing to do with processed food. While being overweight can undoubtedly affect your ability to procreate, plenty of overweight people have done it and on the contrary, have lots of kids, so it's not that. It's all to do with economic and social reasons. In surveys of adults in majority white Western countries, the majority of the child-less ones weren't so because they didn't want children, it's that they can't afford them. A lot of them can't even contemplate having enough money to look after one child and can barely look after themselves. I've always wanted a child but at this point in my life, it's simply not do-able and it makes me sad to think that I may never become a mother. Also, remember that birth control is widely available in white western countries, can be free and is encouraged, so this will obviously result in fewer pregnancies. Next, white Western culture simply has different family culture. We see nothing wrong with not marrying/being child-less/focusing on a career. We also are raised to believe that the world is highly overpopulated and we should stop adding to it. In contrast, non-white culture promotes the exact opposite things - they place much higher importance on marriage and children, to the point where most see it as their civic duty to their family and their country to have children. And they don't seem to be the least bothered about overpopulation. Overpopulation is very much a white, Western concern. Everywhere else operates under the idea of having children is a positive thing and there's little concern about actually having the money to raise them. It's no wonder that the result is declining populations in white European western countries, while non-white, eastern regions are bursting at the seams. It also explains why the rich (who tend to have little or no children) get richer while the poor (who tend to have multiple children) get poorer. It's the ultimate irony that those who actually have the money to have children are choosing not to have them while those who are on the poverty line are popping out child after child.

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1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

It is 2050, which isn't exactly in the near future but still shocking. But who's to say that new policies won't come up that will improve the economy or encourage people to have more children? Just because these are the predictions now doesn't mean it'll still hold true in 30 years. A lot can change in that time. But still, it's depressing to see so many small countries with small populations as it is decrease ever further.

The biggest cause of suffering that comes from a declining population is that there's so many jobs that need to be done and there won't be enough people around to do them anymore. This is particularly problematic in the health industry. And a lower population means people who rely on customers for their work will now have less custom, meaning they'll lose their job or their business goes under. This is why I think people who encourage people to stop having children aren't seriously thinking of the consequences. Every country needs to have a solid replacement rate if they want to operate comfortably and properly. If everyone stopped having children right now, we'd be up the creek in just a few short years and the human race would die out inevitably.

It's nothing to do with processed food. While being overweight can undoubtedly affect your ability to procreate, plenty of overweight people have done it and on the contrary, have lots of kids, so it's not that. It's all to do with economic and social reasons. In surveys of adults in majority white Western countries, the majority of the child-less ones weren't so because they didn't want children, it's that they can't afford them. A lot of them can't even contemplate having enough money to look after one child and can barely look after themselves. I've always wanted a child but at this point in my life, it's simply not do-able and it makes me sad to think that I may never become a mother. Also, remember that birth control is widely available in white western countries, can be free and is encouraged, so this will obviously result in fewer pregnancies. Next, white Western culture simply has different family culture. We see nothing wrong with not marrying/being child-less/focusing on a career. We also are raised to believe that the world is highly overpopulated and we should stop adding to it. In contrast, non-white culture promotes the exact opposite things - they place much higher importance on marriage and children, to the point where most see it as their civic duty to their family and their country to have children. And they don't seem to be the least bothered about overpopulation. Overpopulation is very much a white, Western concern. Everywhere else operates under the idea of having children is a positive thing and there's little concern about actually having the money to raise them. It's no wonder that the result is declining populations in white European western countries, while non-white, eastern regions are bursting at the seams. It also explains why the rich (who tend to have little or no children) get richer while the poor (who tend to have multiple children) get poorer. It's the ultimate irony that those who actually have the money to have children are choosing not to have them while those who are on the poverty line are popping out child after child.

They are predictions of course... But demographics are easier to predict than say the economy. We know the age makeup of everyone alive now and we can calculate how much they will age in the next 30 years

 

Variables like changes in immigration, large changes in life expectancy and a sudden change in birth rates can affect this

 

But given that birth rates in developed world have flatted out for quite some time, and life expectancy is peaking (unless we find a cure to ageing) the only thing that should significantly alter these predictions is big changes in immigration

 

also as for the economic impacts i agree. And Japan is the best example of what happens in a "super aged society" with a falling population

 

Also ur reasons for why birth rates are lower in developed world are pretty spot on... But I would just add the sake phenomenon has been forming in developing nations too and their birth rates are falling also. India for example it down to like 2.4 children per woman now vs double that just a couple decades ago

 

It's estimated that later this century Africa will be the only continent left to still have a natural population increase

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

18 hours ago, Economy said:

I mean... Most on the list are developed Countries actually... They are just lower tier developed Countries (less wealthy)

Serbia, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and Albania are developing countries... So, half of the list.

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13 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

Serbia, Bulgaria, Moldova, Ukraine and Albania are developing countries... So, half of the list.

Officially? They are probably high tier developing Countries then... Anyway the fact that they are in Europe might have accelerated this issue due to emigration

 

The rest of the list of the top 20 has a lot of developed Countries like Portugal and Italy... I think Spain was on the list too id have to check again tho

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

22 hours ago, Economy said:

Officially? They are probably high tier developing Countries then... Anyway the fact that they are in Europe might have accelerated this issue due to emigration

 

The rest of the list of the top 20 has a lot of developed Countries like Portugal and Italy... I think Spain was on the list too id have to check again tho

i dont feel moldova, serbia and ukraine are high tier developing countries tbh. 

but idk

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On 11/25/2019 at 10:43 PM, Customzanotti said:

Yisss, we'll go extinct together

Hopefully, if we don't kill each other first