xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, SwissMonster said: Sure maybe it is not possible to fead the whole world with Vegetarian/Vegan products. Like the example of antarctica or other places where it’s not possible. But it is in most countrys and we have enough space. Yes it will still pollute but not on that level! And no you can say what you want, it is not possible that EVERY SINGLE HUMAN eats grassfed meats, it is proven, as a fact! Its a fact that we can feed everyone on grass fed meats, its been proven End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 30,688 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 1 minute ago, xoxo Craig said: Its a fact that we can feed everyone on grass fed meats, its been proven To quote you: SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, SwissMonster said: To quote you: Just keep dreamin and dreamin and dreamin and dreamiiiiiin End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,827 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 Just now, xoxo Craig said: Neither do you when you list a vegan website Thats like trying to prove god is real by using www.chritsians.org If the source is your only gripe instead of the actual content, which seems to be a common issue with you, here's a few: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/20/dining/animal-welfare-at-risk-in-experiments-for-meat-industry.html https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/04/10/176843210/a-legal-twist-in-the-effort-to-ban-cameras-from-livestock-plants https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/animal-abuse-factory-farms-undercover-investigators-pigs-chickens-cows-turkeys-mercy-for-animals-a7501816.html https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/04/factory-farming-destructive-wasteful-cruel-says-philip-lymbery-farmageddon-author https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9bn785/meat-the-press https://www.rollingstone.com/interactive/feature-belly-beast-meat-factory-farms-animal-activists/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Logan said: If the source is your only gripe instead of the actual content, which seems to be a common issue with you, here's a few: https://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/20/dining/animal-welfare-at-risk-in-experiments-for-meat-industry.html https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2013/04/10/176843210/a-legal-twist-in-the-effort-to-ban-cameras-from-livestock-plants https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/animal-abuse-factory-farms-undercover-investigators-pigs-chickens-cows-turkeys-mercy-for-animals-a7501816.html https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/04/factory-farming-destructive-wasteful-cruel-says-philip-lymbery-farmageddon-author https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9bn785/meat-the-press https://www.rollingstone.com/interactive/feature-belly-beast-meat-factory-farms-animal-activists/ https://climateandcapitalism.com/2018/06/26/why-avoiding-meat-and-dairy-wont-save-the-planet/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/sorry-but-giving-up-on-meat-is-not-going-to-save-the-planet/amp https://www.fginsight.com/news/news/naive-vegans-are-spreading-incredible-lies-and-damaging-the-farming-industry-74210 As I said before, vegans take like 2 clips of a farm not treating the animals correctly and run with it. The whole meat industry isn't bad, nor does it torture the animals. I know the farm I go to treats the animals with care. But if you are so concerned about the animals, what about the animals the get killed by combine harvesters harvesting crops... or do they not matter? End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathach 6,674 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 33 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: From an early age I didn't like veg... its almost like my body was telling me that its bad for me. You went from "vegan diet is bad" to "vegs are bad" lmao and you are the one talking about health? You sounds like a parody. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Scathach said: You went from "vegan diet is bad" to "vegs are bad" lmao and you are the one talking about health? You sounds like a parody. Look it up to stop confusion... look up oxilates and what they do End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,827 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: https://climateandcapitalism.com/2018/06/26/why-avoiding-meat-and-dairy-wont-save-the-planet/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/sorry-but-giving-up-on-meat-is-not-going-to-save-the-planet/amp https://www.fginsight.com/news/news/naive-vegans-are-spreading-incredible-lies-and-damaging-the-farming-industry-74210 As I said before, vegans take like 2 clips of a farm not treating the animals correctly and run with it. The whole meat industry isn't bad, nor does it torture the animals. I know the farm I go to treats the animals with care. But if you are so concerned about the animals, what about the animals the get killed by combine harvesters harvesting crops... or do they not matter? The majority of the world’s grain is fed to livestock. As for grass-fed, it's just a vague, feel-good word for scamming consumers – right up there with “farm-fresh”, “pure”, and “humane”. So please, don't passively aggressively question my passion for the well-being of animals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwissMonster 30,688 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 10 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: https://climateandcapitalism.com/2018/06/26/why-avoiding-meat-and-dairy-wont-save-the-planet/ https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sciencealert.com/sorry-but-giving-up-on-meat-is-not-going-to-save-the-planet/amp https://www.fginsight.com/news/news/naive-vegans-are-spreading-incredible-lies-and-damaging-the-farming-industry-74210 As I said before, vegans take like 2 clips of a farm not treating the animals correctly and run with it. The whole meat industry isn't bad, nor does it torture the animals. I know the farm I go to treats the animals with care. But if you are so concerned about the animals, what about the animals the get killed by combine harvesters harvesting crops... or do they not matter? Also, we discuss all the time how they should be treated etc... but in the end they die, that’s the bigger issue in the end when we talk about moral reasons to become Vegan/Vegetarian... And if we need meat in the way you think we need it. Why kill animals and not humans? Are animals worth less then us? SwissMonster®️ - Creating controversy since 1999 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scathach 6,674 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 24 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Look it up to stop confusion... look up oxilates and what they do So you only eat meat, like twice a day? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weed 78,873 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 26 minutes ago, xoxo Craig said: Look it up to stop confusion... look up oxilates and what they do do you think obesity is bad? do you think vegetables cause obesity? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilocorB 548 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 This is really sad because it is going to give a bad reputation for vegan diets. I have been vegan for seven years and I would never go back! I am more healthy, I eat more and it costs less than an omni diet so I can afford eating 3-4 meals a day. (and it’s also sad because a child died) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
magicalgaga 783 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 At this point I'm only thinking about the fact that crucial decision-making in journalism is once again proofed to be relevant in the context of understanding the message the article is sending: the TITLE of the article is clearly a choice based on the heated conversation that it would most likely cause – like we see in this stupid thread. The main point of the article was the fact that a baby died because of poor nourishment, not because the parents were vegan. I have my own personal doubts about the vegan diet but I don't see the point in attacking people like this. The vegan diet in of itself is not bad; when it's not done correctly and according to the personal needs of your own body (human bodies are individuals) it could be harmful. This fight between ideologies is unnecessary. I commented on this thread on the first page and was talking about the article itself: you have to read it properly and understand the text properly before making stupid assumptions. Reading comprehension is important as hell! Some of y'all didn't even bother and it shows. Also, understanding what the article WANTS you to believe is as important as the legit message it's sending. This article clearly WANTS you to think that it was the vegan diet ALONE that caused the death of the baby. And y'all who are yelling about how harmful veganism is "objectively" fell right into the trap. i was born this way, baby Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seba 291 Posted November 25, 2019 Share Posted November 25, 2019 It is terribly sad that gays try to defend eating meat without any reasonable arguments. I am not surprised that there is still so much homophobia in the world, since the defenders of some rights themselves do not respect the rights of others (animals). But on the other hand this is the world - idiots will remain idiots who do not respect others right to life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 116,998 Posted November 25, 2019 Author Share Posted November 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, seba said: It is terribly sad that gays try to defend eating meat without any reasonable arguments. I am not surprised that there is still so much homophobia in the world, since the defenders of some rights themselves do not respect the rights of others (animals). But on the other hand this is the world - idiots will remain idiots who do not respect others right to life. Huh? Sorry, but thefxck you are talking about? What does this have to do with being gay?! You are good in the mind, bro? (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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