Japan Leads “Super Aged Societies” By Large Margin

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https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/countries-with-the-largest-aging-population-in-the-world.html

 

Ageing Society: 7% to 13.9% over age 65

Aged Society: 14% to 19.9% over age 65 (most developed Nations now)

Super Aged Society: 20% or more aged over 65

 

 

Percentage of population 65+:

 

Japan: 27%

Italy: 23%

Portugal: 22%

Germany: 21%

Finland: 21%

Bulgaria: 21%

Sweden: 20%

Latvia: 20%

Malta: 19%

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Btw side fact... by 2030 in about 10 years Japan will reach 32%

 

Also right now there are only 8 “Super Aged Nations” but by 2030 it will double to 16

 

In 2014, only 3 existed (Japan, Italy and Germany).

 

Portugal surpassed Germany in age later due to net-immigration impacts that Germany benefited more from

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Those are worrying numbers. Y'all, we millennials and gen-zrs are gonna work till we're 80 

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8 minutes ago, Curunir said:

Those are worrying numbers. Y'all, we millennials and gen-zrs are gonna work till we're 80 

Japans trends in aged society is a good 2 decades ahead of average developed Nation...

 

What happens in their economy there may be a good representation of the transformation the rest of the world is in for... and its not pretty

 

I think the world should study Japan and learn from their failures and mistakes in policy in dealing with aged society so we dont have to have the same severe problems they are having

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And to top it all of, we have global warming 

[Curunir 7,510]

I wonder if the number of immigrants Germany took in (1.5+ mil) is going to help them out in the future 

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Just now, Curunir said:

And to top it all of, we have global warming 

A seperate issue

 

i think most developed Nations will be harder hit from ageing population problem because not only are our citizens older, but we also will be hit by climate change less severely 

 

less developed nations are more year away from serious ageing but their warmer geographical locations, lack of fresh water and regions more prone to floods means they will be even more prone to damage from Climate change than ageif demographics 

 

A Country like mine (Canada) thats has 20% of worlds fresh waster for only 0.5% of Earths population, a colder climate, small percentage of population living near sea level regions that may need to be ecatuated, and big storms rarely affect our populated areas will probably take more damage from having too many 80 year olds...

 

unless it got so bad that even Countries like mine in more fortunate geographical locations got severely impacted 

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6 minutes ago, Economy said:

A seperate issue

 

i think most developed Nations will be harder hit from ageing population problem because not only are our citizens older, but we also will be hit by climate change less severely 

 

less developed nations are more year away from serious ageing but their warmer geographical locations, lack of fresh water and regions more prone to floods means they will be even more prone to damage from Climate change than ageif demographics 

 

A Country like mine (Canada) thats has 20% of worlds fresh waster for only 0.5% of Earths population, a colder climate, small percentage of population living near sea level regions that may need to be ecatuated, and big storms rarely affect our populated areas will probably take more damage from having too many 80 year olds...

 

unless it got so bad that even Countries like mine in more fortunate geographical locations got severely impacted 

That's actually a very real possibility 

The sea rising is a massive issue, Canada is fuсked in that case 

And so are 2/3rds of the world 

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Just now, Curunir said:

I wonder if the number of immigrants Germany took in (1.5+ mil) is going to help them out in the future 

Its helping

 

 but Germany will need a sustained high immigration level to prevent population decline and severe ageing

 

recent years high immigration flows were an aberation in trends due to refugee crisis and it also wasnt that long ago that the Eurozone economic crisis saw a mass exit of people from Portugal, Spain and Greece into Countries like Germany 

 

But these temporary situations dont last forever (for example Portugal has seen extreme economic improvement since 2011 and emigration has dropped significantly)

 

So long term Germany has to be strategic to try to continue accepting a lot of immigration and/or other measures to beef up low birth rates

 

Even with high immigration last few years German population was mostly flat and the largest demographic group the baby boomers havent even started dying yet

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5 minutes ago, Curunir said:

That's actually a very real possibility 

The sea rising is a massive issue, Canada is fuсked in that case 

And so are 2/3rds of the world 

How??? The only major city i can think of near sea level is Vancouver and even then its not the entire city

 

Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, and other heavier populated areas like southern Ontario and Quebec are very much safe... Montreal has some risk but levels would have to rise a lot and because theres a river before Ocean... it would be easier to block Ocean waters with dams and levis than in most coast cities

 

i think Canada is actually better off when it comes to rising sea levels than most Nations with Sea shore

 

The biggest cities tend to be on coasts right by Oceans and in Canadas case thats not where most of our population is

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3 minutes ago, Economy said:

Its helping

 

 but Germany will need a sustained high immigration level to prevent population decline and severe ageing

 

recent years high immigration flows were an aberation in trends due to refugee crisis and it also wasnt that long ago that the Eurozone economic crisis saw a mass exit of people from Portugal, Spain and Greece into Countries like Germany 

 

But these temporary situations dont last forever (for example Portugal has seen extreme economic improvement since 2011 and emigration has dropped significantly)

 

So long term Germany has to be strategic to try to continue accepting a lot of immigration and/or other measures to beef up low birth rates

 

Even with high immigration last few years German population was mostly flat and the largest demographic group the baby boomers havent even started dying yet

They gotta encourage the population to fuсk more 

But how do we do that when we know the world is burning and we don't wanna bring children into a hell hole (agree with queen Miley here)

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4 minutes ago, Economy said:

How??? The only major city i can think of near sea level is Vancouver and even then its not the entire city

 

Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, and other heavier populated areas like southern Ontario and Quebec are very much safe... Montreal has some risk but levels would have to rise a lot and because theres a river before Ocean... it would be easier to block Ocean waters with dams and levis than in mst coasts

 

i think Canada is actually better off when it comes to rising sea levels than most Nations with Sea shore

 

The biggest cities tend to be on coasts right by Oceans and in Canadas case thats not where most of our population is

Vancouver alone is enough to cause chaos. That's a potential 2.5 million people having to be relocated at one time. You think Canada's housing is capable of withstanding that?

Edit: the US would be in an even worse position and that might also affect Canada as well 

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1 minute ago, Curunir said:

They gotta encourage the population to fuсk more 

But how do we do that when we know the world is burning and we don't wanna bring children into a hell hole (agree with queen Miley here)

Lol i dont know if we even can

 

Countries that tried generous child benefits and maternityand parental leave benefits still kept really low birth rates

 

Here in Canada Quebec has one of the cheapest child care services because Government is involved in funding it and their birth rates are even lower than in rest of Canada

 

seems like incentives to help ease economic pain of having kids doesnt seem to be doing much

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2 minutes ago, Economy said:

Lol i dont know if we even can

 

Countries that tried generous child benefits and maternityand parental leave benefits still kept really low birth rates

 

Here in Canada Quebec has one of the cheapest child care services because Government is involved in funding it and their birth rates are even lower than in rest of Canada

 

seems like incentives to help ease economic pain of having kids doesnt seem to be doing much

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1 minute ago, Curunir said:

Vancouver alone is enough to cause chaos. That's a potential 2.5 million people having to be relocated at one time. You think Canada's housing is capable of withstanding that?

I was saying relative to other Nations were better off... 2.5 Million is nothing compared to NYC, LA or other big Coastal areas in the world

 

Anyway its still bad of course...

 

But keep in mind too that “at one time” is not a likely scenario... sea levels rise gradually...

 

Its not like 1 year everyone is fine in Vancouver, the next year the entire city is underwater and all 2.5M have to be relocated at once...

 

And like i said, its not the entire Vancouver metro thats right by sea level...

 

The city made zoning changes colouring in red areas that would be submerged assuming a 3 metre sea level rise... the majority of the city under that scenario would still remain above water

 

The only thing that would cause a sudden need to move 2.5M ppl from Vancouver would be a tsunami say that huge earthquake they are expecting caused one...

 

but that disaster would happen regardless of sea levels rising or not