LibraOctober98 3,505 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 7 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: "not all people who menstruate are women" That is false, all people who menstruate are women. Trans men cant menstruate from hormones and transitioning. Art thou claiming that trans men are only men if they undergo hormones and transitioning? Before that they're just playing fun dress up? To heck with dysphoria? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpamMusubi 1,010 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I’m a female and I personally don’t have a problem with this. If this makes people from different communities feel more included and more in tune with their identity then it ultimately feels like a positive thing Sushi is my one true passion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, LibraOctober98 said: Art thou claiming that trans women are only women if they undergo hormones and transitioning? Before that they're just playing fun dress up? To heck with dysphoria? They are transwomen, hence why the community has been very vocal about calling woman, cis-women. I dont understand why this matters to transwomen if they're not gonna buy the product anyway. As for transmen, they are aware that their body is female. I just personally think Always shouldn't have even delved into that societal issue, there are better and more efficient ways to make transpeople feel included and welcomed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 23 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: "not all people who menstruate are women" That is false, all people who menstruate are women. Trans men cant menstruate from hormones and transitioning. "not all women menstruate" Saying this product is for women does not mean all women menstruate. It means its for women who menstruate. "not all people who menstruate are women" It's true. A majority of people born with a vagina do menstruate. But not all of people born with a vagina are women, some are transmen. "not all women menstruate" Also true. Some people who aren't born with a vagina can identify as transwomen (men to women or non-binary) and so they don't menstruate. Also a few people are intersex. They are born with genitalia which is not considered as male nor female. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
River 128,655 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I sang the title with the ARUTW melody Good job Always. So sploosh your juice all over me you Riverboy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,916 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I thought they were going to announce this new package Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I didn’t know symbols were that divisive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LibraOctober98 3,505 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 1 minute ago, kyanewest said: They are transwomen, hence why the community has been very vocal about calling woman, cis-women. I dont understand why this matters to transwomen if they're not gonna buy the product anyway. As for transmen, they are aware that their body is female. I just personally think Always shouldn't have even delved into that societal issue, there are better and more efficient ways to make transpeople feel included and welcomed. You might be right, I just wonder how many complaints they actually got, or if it was just a political move. Either way, it can't be bad to want to include people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 36 minutes ago, LDGA said: "that not all people who menstruate are women" What?????Who can take them seriously if they are saying things like that. Good that the company is being "inclusive", but the reasons transgenders activists give are... laughable to say at least. Female to male trans people probably feel so ridiculous walking into a store to buy tampons for themselves. Open ur mind up a little bit and think from someone else’s perspective before you laugh. ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 29 minutes ago, kyanewest said: Transgender women do not menstruate so it makes zero sense. Women are women and they have female bodies and there's nothing wrong with a female symbol. I dont understand how this is 'inclusive' as transgender women are aware that they don't have a female body and are fine with it. You forgot about transgender men. They DO menstruate. So it makes a lot of sense actually. ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
audrey horne 1,180 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, kyanewest said: They are transwomen, hence why the community has been very vocal about calling woman, cis-women. I dont understand why this matters to transwomen if they're not gonna buy the product anyway. As for transmen, they are aware that their body is female. I just personally think Always shouldn't have even delved into that societal issue, there are better and more efficient ways to make transpeople feel included and welcomed. Maybe to deconstruct the binary system that considers feminine symbols/colors = women = vagina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 20 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: "not all people who menstruate are women" That is false, all people who menstruate are women. Trans men cant menstruate from hormones and transitioning. "not all women menstruate" Saying this product is for women does not mean all women menstruate. It means its for women who menstruate. Or someone who identifies as a man, but has not yet gone through hormones/transitioning. Please remember the term “woman” is a form of gender identification. Gender is a social construct. The term sex however does refer to anatomy and biology. So yes, someone who identifies as a man can still have a vagina that menstruates. Just remain open to the concept before shutting it down ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeeshy Keety 9,935 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 A Tale of the LGBT Tag "White twink got a weird look on the bus" GGD: "Someone tries to make the world better for trans people" GGD: ....such a small part of the population to change everyth-- They / Them Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gracious Gaga 17,163 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 16 minutes ago, kyanewest said: They are transwomen, hence why the community has been very vocal about calling woman, cis-women. I dont understand why this matters to transwomen if they're not gonna buy the product anyway. As for transmen, they are aware that their body is female. I just personally think Always shouldn't have even delved into that societal issue, there are better and more efficient ways to make transpeople feel included and welcomed. If I was trans, reading your comments here would make me feel not included and Not welcomed. This is coming off a little transphobic and unaccepting. Why can’t you accept and welcome this change for always products? It’s the small steps that matter, as well as the big ones. Why would you shoot down a step towards openness , regardless of how important or not you think it is ♥ Kindness Police. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LDGA 1,260 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 38 minutes ago, Dominic said: A trans man may still menstruate depending on how far along the transition process they are. It is hardly problematic tbh. Until the change is completed they are women, if they menstruate then it means their female organs and hormones are still working. Also, this whole issue became problematic the moment when a transgender used a always product and found the female symbol on it as a way of discrimination or non-inclusion at least. 4 minutes ago, Gracious Gaga said: Female to male trans people probably feel so ridiculous walking into a store to buy tampons for themselves. Open ur mind up a little bit and think from someone else’s perspective before you laugh. I do not see why would someone feel uncomfortable buying anything, and at least the trangender start screaming that the tampons is for him/her, do not see how anyone in the store would assume its for him/her. I am as open minded as i can be, but that does not mean i will accept everything i see or hear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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