Isis militants break out of prison in Syria after bombing by Turkey

[ChromeAngel 3,230]

12 minutes ago, LadyHaha said:

I mean.. I’m probably one of the most active posters In this thread. So thanks for ready and enjoying our posts? 
 

doesn’t change the fact the thread has gotten toxic, as we can see from your reply. 
 

If the thread gets closed,

 

you’ll be okey.

I’m so sorry. You’re absolute right, it’s a “fact” that this thread is toxic, whatever that even means. The best corse of action when someone disagrees with you is to just close the thread. I really hope I’ll be okay

 *takes deep breaths*

 

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

16 hours ago, LadyHaha said:

So to clear this up, you would rather have ISIS attack across the Middle East and in Europe then have American troops help hold them. 

You hate American voters (which are people) because of what has happened in the Middle East. 

you love your people even though they themselves are responsible for what you are doing in Yemen, as again.. you blame a country’s population for what happens. 
 

Or are you saying it’s a double standard? 
 

for context i’m British (European first) and was too young to vote for the war in Iraq. I believe Tony and George should be in prison for war crimes and genocide. I’m not proud of England or to be English in any kind of way.

I think he wants to say that Americans have commited as much attrocities as ISIS has in the Middle East.

Not everyone is bad, but not everyone is good either. 

The US clearly doesnt care about civilians, and they’d let thousands of people die if that means losing money.

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

This is what I hate about liberalism and anti-war people from 1st world countries.

They tend to believe their country is 100% free of blood and that (in this case) ISIS is responsible for every death. Yeah, they’ve attacked Europe and Africa (even tho nobody gives a **** about Africa)... but Russia, the US, Turkey, Israel and many more countries have founded terrorist groups and the war in Syria. So they are partially responsible for the deaths of civilians in Syria and Europe.

We ve seen this happen in Vietnam. Why the **** is the US fighting in countries onn the opposite side of the world? They only want money, oil and power. Thats it.

[HeavyCapiLover 4,389]

IHe's not wrong when he says that America has founded ISIS, they have sell a lot of weapons to Sausi Arabia wich is openly funding terrorists groups. Same happened for some europeans countries, we know that france has lost some weapons during the fights againsts ISIS and these criminals took them. A lot of people in France are mad at the government for selling weapons to SA, because we all know that ther are war criminals in Yemen.

I know US has caused a lot of trouble in Middle East especially in Irak, but saying that ISIS will disapear only of the US retire from the area is not realistic when know that they started to get weaker due to the internationals interventions.

But you can't hate on american people for what their presidents did. Yes the Bush government has spread a lie to attack Irak but not all american people agreed with it and they didn't necesserly know what was really happening.  

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20 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

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3 hours ago, ChromeAngel said:

I’m so sorry. You’re absolute right, it’s a “fact” that this thread is toxic, whatever that even means. The best corse of action when someone disagrees with you is to just close the thread. I really hope I’ll be okay

 *takes deep breaths*

 

But I don’t totally disagree with him? If you took the time to actually read the thread you would know that.. 

This is why I said it should be closed, people like yourself just come in and leave these ridiculous comments without even bothering to read how it got to this point.
 

I have agreed with both sides but think that one poster hasn’t articulated well what he means which has caused the confusion and got people angry. It isn’t a discussion if people are just shouting down each other, which unfortunately is how this thread started to go.

i think everyone in the thread who was actually talking about it probably agrees that things have been miscommunicated from people on both sides which has resulted in this. 
 

[Zilla 13,451]

4 hours ago, ChromeAngel said:

Why can’t people have a conversation? Go away if this triggers you. I think it’s interesting reading two different sides to this argument. 

You’ll be okay. 

I don't condone the "go away" part, but just know the mod team is watching this thread very very closely.

We know this is a hot button topic but this is actually happening in the world. There are people dying every minute we are arguing about this. If you close a thread, it doesn't mean the situation doesn't exist. It's triggering to many different ways of life. 

I know this is a very difficult situation, especially for people that might be in the area or have people in that area. Please try and keep it as civil as you can, given the subject matter. 

 

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7 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

I think he wants to say that Americans have commited as much attrocities as ISIS has in the Middle East.

Not everyone is bad, but not everyone is good either. 

The US clearly doesnt care about civilians, and they’d let thousands of people die if that means losing money.

All American people are good I have no problem with them, but the government do commit crimes in the name of the American people. My main point is these terrorists exist because of world governments like America and many others.  My only criticism of the American people is they make excuses for voting for war criminals like Hilary Clinton for example and they take democracy for granted.

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2 hours ago, LadyHaha said:

But I don’t totally disagree with him? If you took the time to actually read the thread you would know that.. 

This is why I said it should be closed, people like yourself just come in and leave these ridiculous comments without even bothering to read how it got to this point.

I have agreed with both sides but think that one poster hasn’t articulated well what he means which has caused the confusion and got people angry. It isn’t a discussion if people are just shouting down each other, which unfortunately is how this thread started to go.

i think everyone in the thread who was actually talking about it probably agrees that things have been miscommunicated from people on both sides which has resulted in this. 
 

Didnt you like a post accusing me of loving ISIS because im being driven by my religion? then now you say that you agree with me?

This thread should not be closed, alot of people have never been exposed to these opinions and I think its important even if we disagree. I learn alot too from this, I just wish I wouldnt be called a terrorists during the process. But I get it, its a sensitive subject and people who are uneducated and triggered that they got exposed have nothing to say but accuse me based on my religion, nationality, and stereotypes about Muslims. Because im used to it, im not bothered, but you will see them go crazy if I used their race, religion, or nationality against them.

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6 hours ago, Henri Bardot said:

This is what I hate about liberalism and anti-war people from 1st world countries.

They tend to believe their country is 100% free of blood and that (in this case) ISIS is responsible for every death. Yeah, they’ve attacked Europe and Africa (even tho nobody gives a **** about Africa)... but Russia, the US, Turkey, Israel and many more countries have founded terrorist groups and the war in Syria. So they are partially responsible for the deaths of civilians in Syria and Europe.

We ve seen this happen in Vietnam. Why the **** is the US fighting in countries onn the opposite side of the world? They only want money, oil and power. Thats it.

Literally no one is saying that.

[Itsbrenda 2,983]

2 hours ago, Faysalaaa said:

Didnt you like a post accusing me of loving ISIS because im being driven by my religion? then now you say that you agree with me?

This thread should not be closed, alot of people have never been exposed to these opinions and I think its important even if we disagree. I learn alot too from this, I just wish I wouldnt be called a terrorists during the process. But I get it, its a sensitive subject and people who are uneducated and triggered that they got exposed have nothing to say but accuse me based on my religion, nationality, and stereotypes about Muslims. Because im used to it, im not bothered, but you will see them go crazy if I used their race, religion, or nationality against them.

I’m not sure but if I did it might have been liked something else in that post rather then then calling you that. 
 

as I have pointed out multiple times, I agree with everything you are saying but we have a different opinion on if it’s good the US are leaving or not.

I'm not uneducated because I have a different ‘opinion’ on this one topic then you. 
 

you think I don’t understand the gravity of what the USA and the UK have done? It’s something I speak out frequently and have already said I think Bush and Tony should be trialed as war criminals because that is what they are. (Along with many others including ****). 
 

I have also frequently pointed out that What Saudi Is doing right now is horrendous. That we agree on... along with what I said about the Iraq war.

Instead of always being on the attack just read what I’m writing and think about it. I even quoted 2 things you said so other people could stop attacking you and understand what your perspective is clearer as you haven’t been very clear in some of your posts. 
 

I have not called you a terrorist, mentioned anything at all to do with religion or stereotyped you at all, so I hope that isn’t aimed at me. My previous replies are still in this thread for you to check. 

I don’t think you realise how many people in the west are sick of our governments wars and lies. We do know what’s happened and what’s going on. 

I do think this thread should be closed. It’s clear there isn’t going to be a friendly discussion here and the thread has gone slight off topic which isn’t clear for new people coming into the thread. (As you can see from the off topic/bizzar Messages from people not reading the whole thread). 
 

im going to take a step back for this as I don’t think it’s a healthy way to discuss how we feel, however, if you want to continue feel free to send me a message because I do think we agree on a lot (except the US extraction of troops & the current situation with isis). 
 

anyway, for anyone coming into this thread remember that we are all just people stuck in this stupid game where wealthy men wage war and destruction on us and try and turn everyone against each other. It doesn’t matter if you are born in the US, Mexico, India, China, Russia or the Middle East.. everyone is the same. We have the same dreams and the same fears, we shouldn’t be fighting with each other. 

 

 

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26 minutes ago, LadyHaha said:

I’m not sure but if I did it might have been liked something else in that post rather then then calling you that. 

I have not called you a terrorist, mentioned anything at all to do with religion or stereotyped you at all, so I hope that isn’t aimed at me. My previous replies are still in this thread for you to check. 

You liked comments accusing me of being a terrorist driven by my religion. You liked two posts saying this so dont act like it was a mistake. One of the post only talks about me being a terrorist so dont act like you liked it because of the other stuff in the comment. Im obviously on the attack because people are attacking me. Here are the posts you liked:
 

On 10/12/2019 at 9:51 PM, Candy Gaga said:

It's freaking scary at this point that they shamelessly walk and support ISIS and their beliefs/present that easy and normally walk between us.

 

23 hours ago, Candy Gaga said:

That's your own delusion and I apologise for saying that. Your country is involved with billion dollars deals with the US and my country have a peace treaty with Israel. Your hate as an INDIVIDUAL towards those countries won't change any of that ongoing business. You belong to a 1% Middle Easterns who have your same beliefs and from what you're saying it's obvious support to ISIS . What you're saying is wrong and against what 99% of what humanity including Middle Easterns think ( About USA and ISIS ) and you need to fix those problems.

[Henri Bardot 3,990]

3 hours ago, ZacharyMark said:

Literally no one is saying that.

Yes they are, when they complain about how disgusting and “vile” it is to “support” ISIS or any terrorist group

But when you compare these groups with their government, many go silent or even get ofended.

The problem is we re not radical enough when making comparisons

[Morphine Prince 109,682]

@Bellatrix

1,000+ ISIS affiliated individuals reportedly have escaped according to Kurdish officials. 

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29 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said:

@Bellatrix

1,000+ ISIS affiliated individuals reportedly have escaped according to Kurdish officials. 

It benefits Turkey to have ISIS released because they will weaken the kurds. It also benefits the Syrian government because the focus will be on ISIS and not them. It also benefits America if they want an excuse to start a new war. It also benefits some Middle Eastern countries because they hate Iran who are allied with the Syrian government. The truth is, all world governments want ISIS to exist and get bigger which is why it has power.