FABian 852 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/ukraine-transcript-donald-trump-zelensky-biden/index.html (CNN)The transcript of a July phone call between President Donald Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky amounts to a clear case of a (barely) unspoken quid pro quo involving the digging up of dirt on Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. ______________________________ I think they were referring to this incident as a smoking gun for Joe Bidens corruption. 🤭🤭🤭 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 8 minutes ago, FABian said: https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/ukraine-transcript-donald-trump-zelensky-biden/index.html (CNN)The transcript of a July phone call between President Donald Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky amounts to a clear case of a (barely) unspoken quid pro quo involving the digging up of dirt on Democratic presidential candidate Joe Biden. ______________________________ I think they were referring to this incident as a smoking gun for Joe Bidens corruption. 🤭🤭🤭 Did you actually read the article? “Even if Trump hadn't openly asked Zelensky to look into Biden and instead only suggested that he had heard rumors of corruption regarding the Bidens and Ukraine, this call would be problematic. Because the United States is a global superpower which was, at that moment, withholding loan money from Ukraine -- a fact that the newly elected president of said country would be intimately aware of. That Trump just came out and asked for Zelensky to investigate the Bidens -- after reminding him several times of how much the US did for Ukraine!!!! -- is something very close to the textbook definition of a quid pro quo. It's hard to imagine why Trump, knowing what he said, would have spent the past 48 hours defending the call as "perfect" and totally above board. The actual transcript makes that pre-spin laughable. But what is documented, very clearly, in this kind-of, sort-of transcript is this: The American President pressuring a foreign leader to look into the frontrunner for the 2020 Democratic presidential nomination. And doing it by reminding the Ukrainian President of all the US has done for his country. The transcript is truly stunning stuff -- even from a President who has moved the goalposts on "stunning" a long time ago. If Trump thought releasing this transcript would somehow make Democrats look like fools for beginning an impeachment inquiry against him, he was wrong. Very, very wrong.” Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 No they said that it’s a smoking gun for Trump pressuring the Ukrainian president to look into Biden’s “corruption”. In fact if you read the article it directly links to independent investigations that show that there was no Biden “corruption”. So, in sum: The President of the United States tells a foreign leader that we do a lot for his country and his country hasn't done enough for us. Then he says that it would be super nice if Ukraine looked into allegations -- debunked by all independent fact checkers and there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, it's worth noting - You saw that people didn’t want to look at that Fox News video so you ran to google and typed in “Ukraine CNN” to see what would pop up and linked the first thing that you saw. How embarrassing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABian 852 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 7 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: No they said that it’s a smoking gun for Trump pressuring the Ukrainian president to look into Biden’s “corruption”. In fact if you read the article it directly links to independent investigations that show that there was no Biden “corruption”. So, in sum: The President of the United States tells a foreign leader that we do a lot for his country and his country hasn't done enough for us. Then he says that it would be super nice if Ukraine looked into allegations -- debunked by all independent fact checkers and there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, it's worth noting - You saw that people didn’t want to look at that Fox News video so you ran to google and typed in “Ukraine CNN” to see what would pop up and linked the first thing that you saw. How embarrassing I literally copy and paste the title from CNN and made a Joe Biden joke. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤦♂️🤦♂️ EDIT: and no I dont read CNN. Frankly I was trying to highlight the obvious polarity of both sides, and casually laughing at both of them. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 Literally. Meanwhile the FED is growing its balance sheets. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 EDIT 2: the fact that I get slammed for not using enough left leaning sources, and here I am citing one and getting slammed for it 🤭🤭🤭🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ lmao Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABian 852 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 9 minutes ago, Marilyn MonHoe said: No they said that it’s a smoking gun for Trump pressuring the Ukrainian president to look into Biden’s “corruption”. In fact if you read the article it directly links to independent investigations that show that there was no Biden “corruption”. So, in sum: The President of the United States tells a foreign leader that we do a lot for his country and his country hasn't done enough for us. Then he says that it would be super nice if Ukraine looked into allegations -- debunked by all independent fact checkers and there is no evidence of wrongdoing by either Joe or Hunter Biden, it's worth noting - You saw that people didn’t want to look at that Fox News video so you ran to google and typed in “Ukraine CNN” to see what would pop up and linked the first thing that you saw. How embarrassing No girl. I literally cited from both ends because of biase complaint. So here I am using left leaning article, and still complains everywhere... .... Hmmmmmm!!! 🤭🤭🤷♂️🤦♂️🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 Also the Joe Biden part was obviously a joke... like do you think someone is that stale to NOT think CNN was talking about TRUMP... LOL!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 The fact of the matter is that Papa Biden used his clout to stop the investigations on his son’s dealings in Ukraine. Those “independent fact-checkers” are not courts of law. Papa Biden should be very worried. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FABian 852 Posted September 25, 2019 Author Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said: The fact of the matter is that Papa Biden used his clout to stop the investigations on his son’s dealings in Ukraine. Those “independent fact-checkers” are not courts of law. Papa Biden should be very worried. The left doesnt think so. But then again the left only sees what they want to see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Temptation 11,209 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 1 minute ago, FABian said: The left doesnt think so. But then again the left only sees what they want to see. The left can’t see anything except themselves. And it ain’t pretty. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gabeoz 7,915 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 While I do think that Biden should be investigated for any wrongdoings with his son's dealing in Ukraine, I also think Trump should not get away with this. Not only did he ask a foreign power that the country is holding funds from to investigate one of his leading political rivals (some would call that extortion but it is still in the air), but he tried to direct him to his own personal attorney. This was from the memorandum that the White House thought would be insignificant, I wonder what all the transcripts of the 30 minute call say. This was also taking place around the time that Barr was being questioned by congress, where he failed to answer whether or not Trump (or someone else in the Trump camp) had asked him to investigate any specific persons, so I'm interested to see if it will connect with that. But we'll see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 51 minutes ago, FABian said: I literally copy and paste the title from CNN and made a Joe Biden joke. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤦♂️🤦♂️ EDIT: and no I dont read CNN. Frankly I was trying to highlight the obvious polarity of both sides, and casually laughing at both of them. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 Literally. Meanwhile the FED is growing its balance sheets. 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 EDIT 2: the fact that I get slammed for not using enough left leaning sources, and here I am citing one and getting slammed for it 🤭🤭🤭🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️ lmao Awww you seem triggered quoting me twice Meanwhile America is heading towards a recession 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭 The obvious polarity of both sides? You mean how the left is holding Trump accountable and the right is making excuses for him as usual? You are a proven hypocrite and liar... why should anyone take you seriously other than the other Republican trolls on this site? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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