Nancy Pelosi admits she hasn't read the Ukraine transcripts

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 minute ago, FABian said:

Love.

Same.

Although I love Tulsi, she scares me aswell. I think she has her own agenda going on.

But I could be wrong.

Really? I think she is genuine. She is anti-war and a war veteran herself, so she talks the talk and walks the walk. 

Why do you think she has an agenda, and what is it do you think?

[HorusRa2 5,005]

Nancy does a poor job as House speaker. 

 

That said, caveats and all that, Fox News is a propaganda arm of the Republican Party. But so is MSNBC and likely CNN as well but instead are Democratic Party propaganda arms. People here and in this country need to learn to think critically again. People also should not get info from 1 source. There is value in watching Fox & MSNBC. Gotta learn to read between the lines. 

[Miracle 14,068]

18 minutes ago, Economy said:

They are both just as bad in some aspects

 

Yup. As a moderate thats a bit more neutral between both sides i think i can say both ends of the spectrum have very simmilar problems

 

And extremist ideas either direction is rarely a good idea

 

this is why im afraid of what impact a Bernie Presidency would have

not even the same because bernie sanders is to the right of for example true left-leaning parties in europe but yeah

 

[FABian 852]

Just now, Lord Temptation said:

Really? I think she is genuine. She is anti-war and a war veteran herself, so she talks the talk and walks the walk. 

Why do you think she has an agenda, and what is it do you think?

I have no evidence  but my own gut instinct. So I'm not going to speak on it further because I have nothing on her.

 I still chose to support her

[FABian 852]

2 minutes ago, Miracle said:

not even the same because bernie sanders is to the right of for example true left-leaning parties in europe but yeah

 

Anti fascists are fascists.

The group is literally a terrorist organization.

Have you seen them in action?

And the chaos the ensue?

[HorusRa2 5,005]

4 minutes ago, FABian said:

Love.

Same.

Although I love Tulsi, she scares me aswell. I think she has her own agenda going on.

But I could be wrong.

Tulsi is driven by her sense of service as a soldier. Tulsis agenda is what she sees as the good for the American people and that includes bringing as many people together in unity as possible. It’s one reason why she would be a great president. She has a very strong progressive record with streaks of libertarianism in my view. She is the closest to Bernie Sanders on the political spectrum regardless of what the media likes to state. 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 minute ago, FABian said:

I have no evidence  but my own gut instinct. So I'm not going to speak on it further because I have nothing on her.

 I still chose to support her

I get what you mean. She has something that makes me question her motives, but I still believe her and support her 100%. 

[Economy 52,947]

4 minutes ago, Miracle said:

not even the same because bernie sanders is to the right of for example true left-leaning parties in europe but yeah

 

Certain proposals like a huge net worth tax are evn further left than most EU nations would go to

 

The US doesnt have enough redistribution but if Bernie had it all his way i think it would go too far

 

fortunately Presidents influence tragectory but rarely go as far as they want to so it might be fine

[FABian 852]

1 minute ago, HorusRa2 said:

Tulsi is driven by her sense of service as a soldier. Tulsis agenda is what she sees as the good for the American people and that includes bringing as many people together in unity as possible. It’s one reason why she would be a great president. She has a very strong progressive record with streaks of libertarianism in my view. She is the closest to Bernie Sanders on the political spectrum regardless of what the media likes to state. 

I naturally question everyone's motives.

Again I see everything she has done and is doing, and I support her. I just chose to take it at face value for what it is.

[FABian 852]

4 minutes ago, Lord Temptation said:

I get what you mean. She has something that makes me question her motives, but I still believe her and support her 100%. 

Dont get me wrong though.

I literally tell everyone I meet about Tulsi Gabbard and her platform.

Like I literally love everything she talks about and her background.

I'm just naturally always skeptical about anybody who is 'too perfect'

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

1 minute ago, FABian said:

Dont get me wrong though.

I literally tell everyone I meet about Tulsi Gabbard and her platform.

Like I literally love everything she talks about and her background.

I'm just naturally always skeptical about anybody who is 'too perfect'

Love. This. I was gonna say the same thing. She’s almost too good to be true. 

By the way I think it’s perfectly healthy (and sexy and sensible) to always question a political leader’s motives.

Tulsi all the way!

[JusKeepBreathin 19,311]

3 hours ago, Economy said:

Then @Faysalaaa is right. The source isnt really relevant. If she said it she said it, end of story

 

What she said was, "I was in a meeting. I haven't read the transcript." 

This question was asked in the morning right after the memo of the Transcripts were released. You can see the time stamp on the video of 10:25AM and they were referring to an answer she gave prior to that 10:25 AM.

This thread is complete nonsense. 

[ItsTommyBitch 12,640]

The point is that she doesnt need to have *read* the transcripts already to know that something suspicious happened. That's what Fox News is trying to frame it as  I swear, critical thinking..

Facts: Whistleblower reported it, marked urgent, not passed up appropriately through chain of command, Trump confirms he withheld the aid until after the phone call, Giuliani admits he directly pressured them into looking into Biden.

What we don't know is how blatant it is, but its already not good for trump regardless of how damning the transcripts are  (And also, he will edit them lol, which is why we need the testimony from the whistleblower)

[MonsterPaws 2,745]

19 hours ago, FABian said:

I was actually left leaning until I saw their hypocrisy.

My entire family is left leaning, and loved Hillary Clinton and CNN.

Now that I'm a centre and independent, I am automatically right wing.

But if the left want to isolate themselves like that, so be it. 

All they get is another 4 years, and all they have to blame is their own ability to be stubborn.

I'd hope by now they wouldve smartened up, but that's clearly not the case. 

Moderates AND the right will be voting for Trump again because of the left's insolence. 

You do know that the American "left" is more centre-right by European standards yeah?

Going "centre" (from the way you're explaining things it seems to be in terms of the American political spectrum) is literally right wing by German, Swedish etc. (usually Western Europe from what I can tell) countries' overall standards.

So yes, you are right wing. Not to say it's necessarily a bad thing! Just pointing it out.

Putting it visually:

Left-----------------Centre-----------------Right

[  A country like e.g. Germany's political spectrum]

                                  [           America's                             ]