Sam Smith changes their pronouns to they/them

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9 hours ago, derpmonster said:

Singular "they" has been in use for a long time. They as a pronoun has started catching on, it's not a big deal. Language evolves. 

And for some grammatical issues people are confused about, you would say things like "they are a singer" - not "they are singers" for example. They is simply substituted in situ for a singular pronoun but we change the "be" verb as well from "is" to "are". Rest remains singular. 

It's like when you're talking about someone whose gender you don't know. You may say something like "when you love someone, they come around" or "to each their own" (each signifies a singular as part of a collection, thus making "they" singular in this case). 

True

 

guess just not used to hearing it lol

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Guys i think best male and female categories have more to do with the sex of the person as in physiologically their voice since a male and a female voice are different from each other rather than the artist’s gender identity, so can y’all drop this argument?

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I respect the decision and what he wants to be addressed as, I have nothing but love for him and every other person.

However, I won’t and cannot be held liable if I call someone by their incorrect preferred pronouns. I can’t know the pronouns for every single person, nor is a stupid social media post enough to make this general knowledge. I can’t spend my life making sure I don’t offend someone with my words when my intention is not malicious.

I think the whole pronouns thing is excessive.

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4 hours ago, FABian said:

Dont be so racist. 

in a racist society there are structural hierarchies directly affecting your status, recources and health based on your skin colour. this intersects with every other possible category a society discriminates against. there are gay people that are white and gay people that are black and their experiences differ on the basis of racism. not speaking about that and acting like there is no hierarchy is racist. seeing my statement as racist is only a logical conclusion if you ignore societal power structures. it’s really basic social studies knowledge. historically white gay men have been consistently found to tend to support more racist, transphobic and overall discriminatory views. and it makes sense, they almost check every box that is rewarded in white patriarchial society so they conform to heteronormative standards to get a piece of the cake, even if it means stepping on other marginalised groups 

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So Stunning and Brave
Jokes aside, I respect this and appreciate them (Sam Smith)  pointing out the fluidity and social construct of gender but we have to be able to sit at the table with folks who don't see eye to eye and have a constructive dialogue.  Anyway, here's a giggle.  Gotta able to laugh at ourselves and the absurdity of post-modern living

 

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53 minutes ago, Fusel said:

in a racist society there are structural hierarchies directly affecting your status, recources and health based on your skin colour. this intersects with every other possible category a society discriminates against. there are gay people that are white and gay people that are black and their experiences differ on the basis of racism. not speaking about that and acting like there is no hierarchy is racist. seeing my statement as racist is only a logical conclusion if you ignore societal power structures. it’s really basic social studies knowledge. historically white gay men have been consistently found to tend to support more racist, transphobic and overall discriminatory views. and it makes sense, they almost check every box that is rewarded in white patriarchial society so they conform to heteronormative standards to get a piece of the cake, even if it means stepping on other marginalised groups 

Yasssssssssss spill that tea. You deserve a round of applause.

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Can we use it instead of them cos it sounds better. Them is plural

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Y'all are so transphobic. I reported several of you, and I hope you learn a lesson about bullying and making fun of people.

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I can’t even believe some people are being hateful on here. I for one support anyone within the LGBTQIA+ community, no matter how they identify, and I would expect Lady Gaga fans to as well. The amount of bravery it must have taken them to share this publicly, knowing they would probably face backlash, is honestly so inspiring and admirable. I wish them nothing but the best and I am so happy they are finally living their truth entirely out loud. I wish I could give them a big hug. I’m so proud 

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18 minutes ago, xcx said:

Y'all are so transphobic. I reported several of you, and I hope you learn a lesson about bullying and making fun of people.

Non-binary : a spectrum of gender identities that are not exclusively masculine or exclusively feminine‍

Transexual: a person who emotionally and psychologically feels that they belong to the opposite sex.

 

I dont know how being non-binary has been mixed with being a trans. I mean by definition, they are contrary to each other....

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3 hours ago, Fusel said:

in a racist society there are structural hierarchies directly affecting your status, recources and health based on your skin colour. this intersects with every other possible category a society discriminates against. there are gay people that are white and gay people that are black and their experiences differ on the basis of racism. not speaking about that and acting like there is no hierarchy is racist. seeing my statement as racist is only a logical conclusion if you ignore societal power structures. it’s really basic social studies knowledge. historically white gay men have been consistently found to tend to support more racist, transphobic and overall discriminatory views. and it makes sense, they almost check every box that is rewarded in white patriarchial society so they conform to heteronormative standards to get a piece of the cake, even if it means stepping on other marginalised groups 

Thanks for the explanation.

However, as a person of color and part of a minority group, I reject this notion of racism.

 

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Y’all really can’t just be decent human beings? Like you say it’s so hard to understand or it’s so confusing but literally just refer to them as they instead of he or she. If you speak another language, just don’t use pronouns they literally are unnecessary just simplified ways of reference. If you can’t take the minimal amount of effort to respect someone’s wishes, you aren’t confused you’re just transphobic.

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9 hours ago, Bad Kids said:

can someone explain please, i don't get it

There is a difference between the terms “sex” and “gender.” Sex is biologically how someone is born on the outside, where gender is how the person identifies on the inside. Some people identify as gender non-binary, gender fluid, genderqueer, etc. and what that means is that their gender identity is not entirely male and not entirely female, instead it lands somewhere in the middle. These people often tend to use the pronouns “they/ them/ theirs” because they don’t identify as male or female, and this is how Sam Smith identifies. Some people get confused because someone looks male or looks female, so why wouldn’t they just use male or female pronouns? But gender identity is entirely separate from someone’s sex or how they look on the outside. I hope that’s an okay explanation!

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7 hours ago, IcePrincess said:

What's next? Sam Smith wants to be called snowflake or banana? Sam Smith identifies himself as a dog?  

Sam looks like a man, behaves like an effeminate man (or just femine gay), wears man clothes. If he wants to be called they where is his fluid/woman part?

I'm very supportive of LGBT because in 99% of cases we can't change that we are born this way and a lot of people STILL can't understand that. But that all non-binary / fluid whatever type... 
They are so inconsistent in expleining themselves they don't know what they really want... For me it's so unenecessery. 

The snowflake and dog analogy is not accurate at all. They’re a human being, not an animal or object. They just wish to be referred to a certain way.

Gender identity does not have anything to do with how someone looks. The terms “sex” and “gender” are biologically different and differ in definition. Sex = how someone is labeled at birth based on reproductive organs. Gender = how someone identifies on the inside. If someone identifies as he, she, they, etc. it has nothing to do with how they look.

And someone who identifies as gender fluid can’t change that they were born this way either, but so many people just dismiss them because they don’t understand. Any inconsistency comes from the fact that lots of people identify differently. No one is asking to set aside all global issues to focus on this one thing, it’s simply about respecting people at the most basic human level. If someone asks to be addressed a certain way, all they’re asking is that you do your best to respect that. It may seem unnecessary to someone who doesn’t identify that way, but for them it’s simply about being addressed as they wish, and that’s not unnecessary at all. It takes more energy to fight against that than it does to just call them what they want to be called. 

I’m not trying to argue or fight, I’m just sharing how I feel on the issue.