Versace 8,080 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 Scary to think our greatest enemies are secretly one of us. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, nswain1110 said: I’m not defending him but “millions” isn’t correct. He was the founder of one conversion organization/camp, not the entire movement which involved hundreds of such organizations. I didn't attack you in my OP. It's just that his "camp" set a negative precedent which resulted in the harm of millions and it will continue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacs vs looser 5,130 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 25 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: In a Facebook post last week, Game, 51, said he was "wrong," adding: "Please forgive me." "I certainly regret where I caused harm," he wrote. "Promoting the triadic model that blamed parents and conversion or prayer therapy, that made many people believe that their orientation was wrong, bad, sinful, evil, and worse that they could change was absolutely harmful." If he really does mean those words then I hope he becomes a vocal activist against conversion therapy. We need as many of those as we can get. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 I just hope that people don't assume that every person in charge of something anti-gay is actually gay. That's a dangerous precedent to set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davflz 3,293 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Faysalaaa said: Did he practice this on young people or adults? if only adults, I have no problem with it as its consentual. If you are too stupid to go to a conversion therapy, the blame is on you Even if he only "treated" adults, that doesn't make it morally right or in any way acceptable. The people who seek out conversion therapy themselves are extremely desperate and the fear of going to hell or losing their entire family is often on the line. People absolutely get pressured into CT in a way where you can't give true consent to what is being done to you, even as an adult. To label those people as "stupid" is very ignorant Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Knife 7,083 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 The only way he could redeem himself is if we worked to advocate against this B.S. for the rest of his life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacs vs looser 5,130 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 17 minutes ago, PhillipBagshaw said: I just hope that people don't assume that every person in charge of something anti-gay is actually gay. That's a dangerous precedent to set. It is the case a lot of times though. Can you ellaborate on why you think it's a "dangerous precedent to set"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, davflz said: Even if he only "treated" adults, that doesn't make it morally right or in any way acceptable. The people who seek out conversion therapy themselves are extremely desperate and the fear of going to hell or losing their entire family is often on the line. People absolutely get pressured into CT in a way where you can't give true consent to what is being done to you, even as an adult. To label those people as "stupid" is very ignorant Then in that case, you would have to ban literally everything. Example is how desperate people use religion and they are brainwashed into religions. And yes it is not moral or right, but it is consentual. Not everything immoral should be banned Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 32 minutes ago, Ryusei said: There is no conversion. You're gay or you're not Isnt that what I said? whats not clicking? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 34 minutes ago, Bloody Grammys said: imagine thinking this Atleast have something valid to say Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 5 minutes ago, jacs vs looser said: It is the case a lot of times though. Can you ellaborate on why you think it's a "dangerous precedent to set"? Because that could lead people outside of the LGBT community to believe that all hate/homophobia comes from inside of our "group" or social class, while the majority of homophobia and stuff comes from straight people. It isn't true that most comes from gay people, and if straight people believe that then they feel as though it's not an issue to them that they can fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 24 minutes ago, PhillipBagshaw said: I just hope that people don't assume that every person in charge of something anti-gay is actually gay. That's a dangerous precedent to set. Please elaborate, I'm not sure I understand Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 30 minutes ago, Versace said: Scary to think our greatest enemies are secretly one of us. Yes, but he wasn't parading as a gay person luring people to a conversion camp. He was caught up in a world where he believed that was the best way. I am in no way defending him, but this could have literally been anyone. The only reason this is making news is because of the hypocrisy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joannesrats 26 Posted September 3, 2019 Share Posted September 3, 2019 3 minutes ago, Musicisfreedom said: Please elaborate, I'm not sure I understand 4 minutes ago, PhillipBagshaw said: Because that could lead people outside of the LGBT community to believe that all hate/homophobia comes from inside of our "group" or social class, while the majority of homophobia and stuff comes from straight people. It isn't true that most comes from gay people, and if straight people believe that then they feel as though it's not an issue to them that they can fix. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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