FfFfFfFF 55,362 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 17 minutes ago, gypsy101 said: Beyoncé cowrites her songs with other writers just like Lady Gaga does Gaga is the lead songwriter on 95% of her songs... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lextyr97 19,757 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 1 hour ago, RAMROD said: She doing well tbh. She wrote this song after her miscarriage She’s not listed as executive song writer on this track. None of the songs on Beyonce for that matter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB 27,675 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Are we really gonna go through this again? Are we gonna pretend that literally everyone is known for having help with songwriting? "Despite what recent memes might suggest, this is actually quite normal, especially among today’s biggest music acts. Kanye West’s The Life of Pablo has over 100 writers. Rihanna’s Anti has over 30. And Drake’s Views, which came out Friday, has over 40 writers. Like he admits in “Big Rings”: “I got a really big team.” Even Taylor Swift, the “at least she writes her own songs” girl, brought in a teamof writers and producers to help complete the transformation from country tween to pop queen. Adele enlisted the help of 11 writers for 25. Neither approaches the village of authors and composers that populate Lemonade, Life of Pablo, Anti, or Views—all of which are still reflective of an artist’s voice and vision. But it speaks to the truth of the way the industry’s top artists create their music today: by committee." Source:https://www.thedailybeast.com/does-beyonce-write-her-own-music-and-does-it-really-matter When Bey does it it's suddenly a problem. She's credited for her songs she makes and is known to work very closely with her team like it said in the article @BorisIsHere posted. She is still in charge of her creative process so what are you guys talking about So you're telling me, a woman who is one of the most grammy nominated/winner and ASCAP songwriter of the year winner has barely written anything and isn't part of her creative process? It's ok to not like her but I swear some of ya'll find anything to bring this woman down just say you don't like her and go it's getting exhausting and boring do better 💋 𝕊𝕥𝕖𝕡 𝕐𝕒 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕌𝕡💋🍪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 27 minutes ago, gypsy101 said: Beyoncé cowrites her songs with other writers just like Lady Gaga does WRONG! Gaga writes all of her songs. And gives credit to her album producers. Read the songwriting credits of her work. She said many times she writes her own stuff and so do the people she works with. She’s a songwriter, an insult to Gaga’s creativity and integrity to put her in that sentence with Beyonce. The latter is barely a co-writer 😩😂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Talenti said: Are we gonna pretend that literally everyone is known for having help with songwriting? Not everyone does. Artists like MJ wrote his songs and their entire arrangements. The samefor Madonna although she had some help that u could count on ur one hand, not 10, not 30 or more. As for rappers, all i could think of is Tupac & Eminem's whose whole body of work was pratically written by them. But I guess these artists are old now, and to make a hit u need a big team, maybe that's the problem, maybe it explains how music got worse Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 13 minutes ago, Talenti said: Are we really gonna go through this again? Are we gonna pretend that literally everyone is known for having help with songwriting? "Despite what recent memes might suggest, this is actually quite normal, especially among today’s biggest music acts. Kanye West’s The Life of Pablo has over 100 writers. Rihanna’s Anti has over 30. And Drake’s Views, which came out Friday, has over 40 writers. Like he admits in “Big Rings”: “I got a really big team.” Even Taylor Swift, the “at least she writes her own songs” girl, brought in a teamof writers and producers to help complete the transformation from country tween to pop queen. Adele enlisted the help of 11 writers for 25. Neither approaches the village of authors and composers that populate Lemonade, Life of Pablo, Anti, or Views—all of which are still reflective of an artist’s voice and vision. But it speaks to the truth of the way the industry’s top artists create their music today: by committee." Source:https://www.thedailybeast.com/does-beyonce-write-her-own-music-and-does-it-really-matter When Bey does it it's suddenly a problem. She's credited for her songs she makes and is known to work very closely with her team like it said in the article @BorisIsHere posted. She is still in charge of her creative process so what are you guys talking about So you're telling me, a woman who is one of the most grammy nominated/winner and ASCAP songwriter of the year winner has barely written anything and isn't part of her creative process? It's ok to not like her but I swear some of ya'll find anything to bring this woman down just say you don't like her and go it's getting exhausting and boring do better Taylor’s always been a songwriter. She wrote entire albums by herself, so you need to take her out of the equation. None of those other artists you mentioned have ever done that. Rihanna also got slack for ANTI’s number of songwriters, if I recall. It’s the male rap artists who are overlooked here, lets be honest. No one’s bringing Bey down. Just pointing out she doesn’t write her own songs, less so than other artists mentioned on the thread, and you know it. We all like Beyonce, she’s ****ing BEYONCE! But her artistry ethics are questionable. She’s an ASCAP winner yet isn’t the primary songwriter of any of her songs. Not going to sit here and say she buys her awards or anything like other dumb stans but, well... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 25,164 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Depends on the song, but Formation and Drunk In Love has super clumsy lyrics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB 27,675 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, kyanewest said: Not everyone does. Artists like MJ wrote his songs and their entire arrangements. The samefor Madonna although she had some help that u could count on ur one hand, not 10, not 30 or more. As for rappers, all i could think of is Tupac & Eminem's whose whole body of work was pratically written by them. But I guess these artists are old now, and to make a hit u need a big team, maybe that's the problem, maybe it explains how music got worse Ok well that's impressive, good for them? but that's entirely based off of preference. If you think that Lemonade wasn't deserving of its acclaim, then fine that's completely your opinion and valid. Unfortunately the way music is made and consumed has been changed can be debated for the better or worse 💋 𝕊𝕥𝕖𝕡 𝕐𝕒 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕌𝕡💋🍪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmNotHere1997 25,824 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 It's a conspiracy theory that I'm actually interested in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miel 15,009 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Do we know which of her songs were primarily written by her? I love some of her songs, and am curious. 3 points in and ready for more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoneyB 27,675 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rio said: Taylor’s always been a songwriter. She wrote entire albums by herself. Rihanna also got slack for ANTI’s number of songwriters, if I recall. It’s the male rap artists who are overlooked here, lets be honest. No one’s bringing Bey down. Just pointing out she doesn’t write her own songs, less so than other artists mentioned on the thread, and you know it. We all like Beyonce, she’s ****ing BEYONCE! But her artistry ethics are questionable. She’s an ASCAP winner yet isn’t the primary songwriter of any of her songs. Not going to sit here and say she buys her awards or anything like other dumb stans but, well... Ok sure, but I don't understand the backlash she's getting for it, she's still heavily invested and in charge of her music and creative process which countless people have stated and she herself has stated how much of a control freak she is when it comes to her music so why is it such a big deal when she does it. EVERYONE has had some form of help when it comes to their music whether they said it publicly or not which I don't understand why it's such a bad thing If you are still involved in the writing and it's with other songwriters and musicians you admire, I don't get where the false outrage comes from Oh well, at the end of the day it ain't that serious. I respect your opinion though! 💋 𝕊𝕥𝕖𝕡 𝕐𝕒 ℂ𝕠𝕠𝕜𝕚𝕖𝕤 𝕌𝕡💋🍪 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rio 5,088 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, Talenti said: Ok sure, but I don't understand the backlash she's getting for it, she's still heavily invested and in charge of her music and creative process which countless people have stated and she herself has stated how much of a control freak she is when it comes to her music so why is it such a big deal when she does it. EVERYONE has had some form of help when it comes to their music whether they said it publicly or not which I don't understand why it's such a bad thing If you are still involved in the writing and it's with other songwriters and musicians you admire, I don't get where the false outrage comes from Oh well, at the end of the day it ain't that serious. I respect your opinion though! Definitely respect yours too! I can't sit here and hate on Bey point blank like others in the thread. She's easily the best vocalist and dancer of our time. Although I wouldn't call her the best artist of our time, she doesn't tick every box (songwriting, instrumentalist, etc), but that's a topic for another Beyonce attack thread that will no doubt see the light of day pretty soon 💀 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightwing 518 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Weak and corny, but not terrible. You can tell when she actually writes a song, versus when she has someone write a song for her and claims it as hers. The difference is almost like night and day, going all the way back to the days of Destiny's Child up to now. It's gotten better over the years, but I wouldn't dare but her in the same category as Madonna, Lady Gaga, Christina Aguilera and Mariah Carey. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenegAde 18,996 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 0.00 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smother Em Eh 7,091 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I don’t think she is much of a song writer, she is more of an entertainer. An amazing entertainer though. Get Applause & G.U.Y to 1B views! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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