NCgaga 4,323 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Never Really Over was good, but Small talk is horrible. FOr as big as a pop star as she is she should be releasing quality stuff. She has a good voice. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PartySick 159,825 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 hours ago, tomsches said: Don't even get me started on Ur So Gay. That song is lowkey my jam That and CTTR are really the only two KP songs I listen to regularly OT: she's a bit of a child and she can be inappropriate at times is one reason. I don't think it's malicious in any way though nor do I think she deserves the hate. The rest of it is just normal stan bs 🌸Flourishing and vibrant🌼 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alextruper17 8,908 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 11 hours ago, xoxo Craig said: Never Really Over was a top 20 hit Small talk is a top 85 hit Miss Americana & The Heartbreak Prince Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronk 14,762 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Idk. I like Katy. Looking forward to her touring again. I would love to attend. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSUNAMI 20,935 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 Her music is good. She's just coming off as inauthentic person and persona. At least she does for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheMiddleGround 3,251 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 12 hours ago, xoxo Craig said: Exactly... Katy is still a very successful singer despite having one flop song this year Gaga is more diverse when it comes to her talent. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dzox 552 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 if we're talking about eras. witness was katy's ARTPOP and now its katy's joanne except she doesnt get a superbowl promo which made joanne scored a top 5 hit and gaga gained more respect from that era because of that. if it wasnt for superbowl joanne era wouldnt be as sucessful as it was. katy should do a long hiatus and completely change her image like taylor's Reputation era and just stop with those cringey lyrics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradley 59,023 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 I think it depends on the quality of her music. There was a lot of support coming from Gaga fans when she dropped Never Really Over, and that really is a good song. I personally think Small Talk is cute, and I bop to it, but I can understand why people start to criticise her again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxo Adriana 15,040 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 16 hours ago, The Bling said: Because her music is trash me seeing this cliche comment for the 1000th time Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxo Adriana 15,040 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 14 hours ago, tomsches said: It's songs like I kissed a girl that make her so problematic, fetishizing and abusing homosexuality to be cool/trendy. Don't even get me started on Ur So Gay. we're still going on about this 12 years later... if you did your research about the song more than talking about it you'd know its about a former metrosexual boyfriend of hers who wasn't gay but did things she considered "feminine". as wrong as it sounds, standards in the 00's were different compared to today's standards....and literally last time she ever performed that song was at California Dreams Tour in 2011, and it should stay there, we don't need that song performed nowadays. We cannot change the past but we can move on from it and Katy has, by ignoring the song entirely now. So instead of being problematic by bringing up past issues, remember that she was literally surrounded by gays in the beginning of her career just like Gaga was. Also, I kissed a girl "fetishizes" homsexuality?? The delusion you're probably the same person who thinks Madonna and Britney's VMA kiss was "iconic" and Gaga making out with women in Paparazzi music video was also "fetishising" the lesbian community. please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xoxo Adriana 15,040 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 hours ago, Born To Slay said: So the proof is he’s scammed people in the past therefore the accusation is false? That’s pretty problematic to say that tbh. I can see why the media didn’t comment, they’d be dragged. before you wanna read, actually READ the thread first. There was literally zero mention of him lying, just simply relayed what was mentioned in the original thread about his multiple cases of scam in the past. NO mention or word of "that makes him a liar"... Whats most problematic really, is people who wanna drag others but hate it when they get dragged... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gagaxsebert 5,804 Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 17 hours ago, xoxo Craig said: She's is still more relevant than the guy in your avi Katy Perry is a very successful singer in 2019. She is still talked about and her songs still get hype. She isnt like Kesha who has fallen of the face of the earth B**** leave Kesha tf out of this. Sis is back making quality music and was under very tough conditions for the last few years unlike Kathryn Used to be HighRoad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 15 hours ago, derpmonster said: Honey, she has serious sexual assault allegations on her and ALL you fans care about is her reputation. That speaks volumes. She has problematic behavior after behavior and why do y'all defend her? Because she's a female popstar? What has she done for this community again? Can we stop caring about their reputations for a while? She's got resources. She'll be fine. I used to be sympathetic to her too but not anymore. And the way Katycats are bullying Josh Kloss is just disgusting. Omg... imagine thinking this End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 9 hours ago, KatieJudasGaga4 said: This isn't very true. You can go to atrl or Twitter and Katy fans are bashing her saying Katy is still more successful than Gaga even though Shallow went #1 this year. Twitter and ATRL stans are not reflective of her whole fanbase End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xoxo Craig 55,649 Posted August 20, 2019 Author Share Posted August 20, 2019 On 8/20/2019 at 3:49 AM, Essence said: I dislike Katy Perry for the same reason as I have since the beginning of her career. She relies on gimmicks and trends to achieve success, commercially and creatively. When you get down to it, she doesn’t have a notable level of raw talent or creative ferocity at her core. It’s not a coincidence that she is struggling now that people see beyond the superficial layering / genius branding that made her a star... Artists like Katy have an expiration date because they are socially constructed. Not to mention, she has consistently exuded a strain of problematic/offensive/unsavory behavior. Do I hate her? Not at all. Do I think criticism in her direction is warranted? Absolutely. On 8/20/2019 at 3:52 AM, Inferno said: Thank you for articulating this better than I ever have. Its exactly how I've always felt and its ironic to me that there are so many people out there that actually feel this way about Lady Gaga instead of Katy Perry. If you look at Gaga's early career, she too also used gimmicks to achieve success. When she came out with Just Dance, she put on an accent and had her dancers posing in the background at every interview. In the Barbera Winters interview she said she doesn't normally take off her sunglasses. Why? Because she wanted to act like she already made it. Its a gimmick. The meat dress along with every other piece of iconic wear were all gimmicks. Both Katy and Gaga relied on gimmicks on the early part of her career. Also, you have got to mention Gaga's problematic behaviour. Nobody is perfect. Why did Gaga work with R.Kelly when she knew about the sex crimes he did? Why did Gaga sit with a group of people wearing blackface and take photos with them? These sexual misconduct accusations against Katy are false... and while she has made mistakes in her past, she has obviously grown into a better person. She is not the same Katy as she was back in 2011. Just like Gaga has grown from her mistakes. The hate against her is definitely 100% not warrented. End Racism Now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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