Why the hate towards Beyoncé?

[Borislshere 53,078]

Just now, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

No, i'll support when I know it's true. When she does something that doesn't compare to other things she does... You can't just march with BLM when you're selling cothes made by poor kids somewhere else in the world, or after trying to look less black instead of being proud of it. You get me, right? 

No I don't get you. How come no one comes for Gaga for selling her love bravery line with Macy's who has their clothes made by sweatshop workers? A good majority of celebrity lines are made in sweatshops and most of the time the artist doesn't even know because that part of the deal is usually closed and worked out with someone above them. And skin bleaching is an actual issue but once again, physical appearance does not invalidate someones message. Gaga selling a makeup line and getting face fillers does not invalidate her preaching self love and being "born this way". 

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8 minutes ago, KURUSHITOVSKA said:

I don't have to ""hate"" someone just because I idol doesn't lol. And I think it's not really hate, it's just that people are done with her being projected like a perfect goddess.

Where did I say you had too. I just said it doesn't sense for both fandoms to hate each other when they constantly praise each other. Why are both fandoms dragging down their faves success when their fave is doing good? I just said it doesn't make sense. And her fanbase is making her seem like a goddess, Beyonce isn't saying "I'm the biggest popstar in the world and I'm a goddess." Don't "dislike" Beyonce because other people are making her seem like a goddess when Beyonce has absolutely no control over that.

[Madame Goo Goo 3,865]

They hate us because Gaga killed Beyonce in Aura

[gypsy101 5,453]

8 hours ago, davflz said:

Also people are kind of over Beyoncé's "untouchable" image. Like she's this godess that can't do no wrong and will never have a flop ever. Part of that image also comes from her fandom that literally treat her like the second coming of Jesus

i’m tired of people complaining about her being seen as an untouchable goddess. it’s not her fault she’s seen that way and y’all complaining about it is exhausting.

[VOLANTIS 16,406]

8 hours ago, Oshawott said:

Why should we care what the Medonsters think, though? There are only like a dozen of them left anyway.  

But we’re bold enough to think Beyoncé or even her fans care about what we think? 

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34 minutes ago, Borislshere said:

No I don't get you. How come no one comes for Gaga for selling her love bravery line with Macy's who has their clothes made by sweatshop workers? A good majority of celebrity lines are made in sweatshops and most of the time the artist doesn't even know because that part of the deal is usually closed and worked out with someone above them. And skin bleaching is an actual issue but once again, physical appearance does not invalidate someones message. Gaga selling a makeup line and getting face fillers does not invalidate her preaching self love and being "born this way". 

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We only act “woke” when we get to bring down people we don’t like. When it comes to our fave we keep our silence. The clownery of it all. 

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[The13thNote 1,390]

I love Beyonce but she is a bit overrated. Same thing with Britney. 

Its always the underdog that people actually like. Hence the fact Pink has had a technically longer career than all of them from the bubblegum era (Britney, Christina, Avril, Mandy Moore, Shakira, Fergie). And hence the fact Gaga will have a longer career than all the girls from the digital birth era (Katy, Kesha, Rihanna, Lorde, Ellie Goulding, Nicki, Miley, Taylor). 

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4 hours ago, LilyLark said:

I like Bey a lot, although I do get tired on occasion of the hive and the media going like "how dare someone breath near her." As far as the negativity...I think it's a combination of things—although I will say I see a lot of people on GGD defend Bey and that every negative thread is usually at least 1/2-3/4 full of people who like her or at best are ambivalent towards her.  Twitter is more toxic, but again that goes for every fan base.

A big part is the typical "stan competition." It's very common for stan groups to be petty and dislike other artists. Many stan groups have a "there can be only one" mentality.  It's usually more common when an artist that they don't stan tends to be favored more then the GP and Bey is liked more than Gaga by more of the GP. There aren't many mainstream female artists who are generally more successful than Gaga: Taylor, Adele, and Beyonce are the only ones. Rihanna has more number ones, but her albums open around the same as Gaga and Gaga can outsing her (no shade, I love Rih but it's the truth) so Gaga fans let it go. Gaga fans often write off Taylor because Gaga can outsing Taylor easily (no shade again, I love Tay). Adele outsells everyone but very few people get "passionate" about her. So that leaves Beyonce, who outsells Gaga most of the time and has more critical acclaim for some her albums. I'd actually say they are about the same vocally, even though Bey's technical vocal abilities are a tiny bit stronger as you never hear her tired: both have around 3 1/2 octaves and can do various vocal tricks. But some fans look at her and see she has more critical acclaim for some of her albums, sells more than Gaga, that Beychella was seen by the GP as the best live concert in years, and has about the same vocal ability and get annoyed as they see it as her "beating" Gaga which is...dumb. It's not a competition and all of this is subjective, anyway, except sales numbers. For example, Frank Sinatra is often seen as one of the "best singers" along with Nina Simone—and yet they didn't have much range.

There's also the thing that much of the media has put her up on this untouchable pedestal and whenever someone is put on an untouchable pedestal people get wrongly annoyed at the person—and not the media. And if you aren't from the US, the media adoration probably seems a bit odder as Bey doesn't sell overseas in many countries like Taylor, Rihanna, Gaga, etc. From a musical and dance point of view, there are definitely people think singers should always play at least one instrument well and if they don't they shouldn't be rated so high and that's a legitimate critique—I don't necessarily agree, but I see where they are coming from. And Bey's creative team pretty blatantly ripped of Rosas Danst Rosas back in the day, so if you are into dance I get why that would annoy people...especially as the choreographer was derided by some of the media and Bey's fans for being annoyed.

The hive is most of it, though. People get annoyed because they tend to jump in people's mentions, even if Bey isn't mentioned at all, to go "hold up, Bey is better" and go after other artists more than any other stan group—ironically, many little monsters are starting to behave the same way. The hive was pretty bad around the ASIB era because Bey was originally in talks—they were all over saying Bey would have been nominated for an Oscar, this, and that. Much like the little monsters don't like when someone "beats" Gaga, as silly as it is, some of the hive doesn't like that Gaga "beat" Bey in acting ability/acclaim. Lastly, there is some obvious racism and misogyny because Bey is a Black woman.

SO I wrote a book lol. TLDR: In terms of the negativity, much of it is just petty stan wars. Bey just happens to be in the media right now so she is the newest target. GGD also tends to be negative in general. Other things that contribute to some of the negativity: the Hive and members of the media who act like the Hive. Some people who are into dance and music who dislike those aspects of Bey's career. And of course there is some latent racism and misogyny by some posters and far more of it is on twitter.

You made an interesting point. I think the Hives resentment towards Gaga reached boiling point after Gaga got casted in ASIB and replaced Bey for Coachella. I vaguely recall her fans referring to Gaga picking Bey's scraps - that Bey would have slayed Gaga's performances in ASIB (doubtful) and Coachella (true to an extent) . That obviously turned a lot of Monsters to in turn hate on the Hives and by default, Beyonce.  

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I may be oversimplifying, but remember: a lot of people hate us LMs too. We should be better than hating on Beyoncé. She’s a queen, Gaga’s a queen. And I’m sure a lot of the Hive is really nice. We all know a lot of us are but still manage to get a bad rep due to a few misbehaved Monsters ...

[Taylucifer 5,140]

I have no problem with her. She's an icon. 

HER FANDOM HOWEVER...

Spoiler

 

[Oyster 2,458]

Maybe cuz this fan base is just bitter 

[Luna Lovegood 24,372]

I love Beyoncé but her fans sucks lmaoo they’re the scum of the earth 

[Lord Temptation 11,209]

Beyonce got paid $25 million so who kurrs what the fans thank? 

[davflz 3,293]

2 hours ago, gypsy101 said:

i’m tired of people complaining about her being seen as an untouchable goddess. it’s not her fault she’s seen that way and y’all complaining about it is exhausting.

I'm not saying it's fully her fault. I said that that effect largely comes from her fans. But it doesn't change the fact that I find the end result unappealing and off-putting. But partially it also comes from her. She barely shows any vulnerability and doesn't even do much press or interviews anymore.

It's not necessarily a bad thing, but I personally like artists to show their vulnerability so I can actually connect to them on a human level and not just see them as this superior being  that's just me tho