Hybrid AT 78 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 31 minutes ago, Luc said: It's not per se his (Buttigieg's) donor numbers that impresses me the most - I think he may appeal to a somewhat richer demographic, it's the distribution of states where he is the 'biggest' that actually makes him fit to be a presidential candidate. Democrats need someone who can win Wisconsin, and he definitely can. If I were American I would still be rooting for Warren, but I'm not sure if she has enough appeal to people in places like PA. On the other hand, Buttigieg's polling really badly among black people. There's a lot of potential for a smear campaign against him directed at black people by the Republicans, depressing turn-out (just like they did with HRC). That's bad. Exactly! His cross-state appeal is what's incredible and is going to take him far. He's just getting started, putting his organization in place in early caucus states like IA and NH. And like the article in the OP states, he's courted around $10.9 million in donations less than $200. That pretty much makes it obvious that he's not just a 'candidate of the Elite' As for his low polling among Black voters, it's gotten a little bit better (he's currently at 5-6% in SC) but I agree he's still polling low. He's got a lot of work to do there. He released an extremely comprehensive Douglass Plan for Black America which has been praised by critics and is being touted by some as THE benchmark plan for criminal justice reform and racial equality amongst the DNC candidates. He still has time. I'm sure he'll win their support eventually. A lot of it is also dependent on how he handles the racial tensions in his city South Bend. So far, he's handled it well enough. "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Our early election season is so confusing. Saturday headlines: Kamala Harris is officially the one to beat. Monday headlines: Pete Buttigieg,ย Joe Biden, & 2 Others Ahead of Kamala Harris. My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 24 minutes ago, HybridAT said: Exactly! His cross-state appeal is what's incredible and is going to take him far. He's just getting started, putting his organization in place in early caucus states like IA and NH. And like the article in the OP states, he's courted around $10.9 million in donations less than $200. That pretty much makes it obvious that he's not just a 'candidate of the Elite' As for his low polling among Black voters, it's gotten a little bit better (he's currently at 5-6% in SC) but I agree he's still polling low. He's got a lot of work to do there. He released an extremely comprehensive Douglass Plan for Black America which has been praised by critics and is being touted by some as THE benchmark plan for criminal justice reform and racial equality amongst the DNC candidates. He still has time. I'm sure he'll win their support eventually. A lot of it is also dependent on how he handles the racial tensions in his city South Bend. So far, he's handled it well enough. "Joe Biden had some words that could have been a plan" is the perfect description for every campaign speech he's given. There's literally one speech where he was asked about something (healthcare, I think) and he answered like "I've got a plan for that, but it's getting hot in here so I'm not going to go into that right now." My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 21 minutes ago, Timmers said: Our early election season is so confusing. Saturday headlines: Kamala Harris is officially the one to beat. Monday headlines: Pete Buttigieg,ย Joe Biden, & 2 Others Ahead of Kamala Harris. Harris IMO will never get the nomination. She rode on her attack on busing and she's already starting to take a dip. Her and Biden are again paired up for the second debate, but this time Biden would be prepared. And let's face it, sooner or later she's going to be called out for her shady past as AG. Plus she's already flip-flopped multiple times in various interviews. She's inconsistent. I'm rooting for Pete all the way through. If not, then Warren. Biden and Bernie are past now. Kamala? NO.ย "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, HybridAT said: Harris will never get the nomination. She rode on her attack on busing and she's already starting to take a dip. Her and Biden are again paired up for the second debate, but this time Biden would be prepared. And let's face it, sooner or later she's going to be called out for her shady past as AG. Plus she's already flip-flopped multiple times in various interviews. She's inconsistent. I'm rooting for Pete all the way through. If not, then Warren. Biden and Bernie are past now. Kamala? NO.ย My post did not endorse a single candidate, just said what I was reading, but good for youย My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrid AT 78 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 2 minutes ago, Timmers said: My post did not endorse a single candidate, just said what I was reading, but good for youย Yeah, I'm quite unabashed when it comes to Pete's supportย ย Regardless, #VoteBlueNoMatterWhoToTakeThatOrangePooOutOfTheWhiteHouseLooย ย ย "I was protected by the monks of Azarath, I was raised by my friends. They are my family, this is my home and you are not welcome here." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
caulixtla 2,170 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 I will vote for whoever gets the nomination. I like Warren, and I will probably like Buttigieg when he has very solid policy positions. I just really hope we donโt get a repeat of the 2016 election, where too many Democratic voters stayed home in Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin because of the โDNC rigged the primaryโ conspiracy theories. Indeed, over at Reddit, people who post at /r/the_donald (a pro-Trump sub-Reddit discussion board) are trying to make up similar conspiracy theories (I use the Reddit Masstagger plugin to be able to see it when users also post to places like /r/the_donald and /r/TheRedPill). My music: https://caulixtla.com/music Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petie Estie 5,736 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 If people want Obama 2 they'll go with Pete -- meaning if the Unity/no red states & blue states just the United States/Yes We Can message. If they want Hillary 2, they'll go with Kamala. She has a tricky past and deftly courts the left while maintaining specifics that are more centrist or not there at all.ย Then there's Bernie & Warren. If they can come together and one supports the other, one of them may win.ย Biden....yeah i don't even know what his deal is. He's a mess. I don't feel like he has a chance despite the polling.ย Call your therapist...it's Petie Estie Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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