LaLa 19,661 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Kind of, but like in the way I'm nostalgic about my own life from that period. It's fun to look back and remember the good times, but I also wouldn't necessarily want to go back. With Gaga I loved those years and I'm so glad we had them, but I wouldn't want her to be like that or act like that now. I'm happy she didn't get stuck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 18 minutes ago, Suspiria said: Second of all - to say her early work has no substance is just wrong. Unrequited love, an obsession with fame, an unhealthy relationship with sex due to body image, celebrating life rather than mourning death, having your dreams crushed and embracing the pain, being addicted to praise and drugs, exorcising your hatred towards your rapist. Honestly... it's not really that deep. Not to mention that I'm actually talking more about TF and TFM more than Born This Way (though BTW does have some meaningless generic duds that I skip nowadays like Heavy Metal Lover). But you've kinda verbalized exactly what Gaga did: Used big and fluffy words to give simple pop music a bigger and beyond meaning that it doesn't really bear. That was her thing. She was fully aware that she did that, cuz that's exactly what Andy Warhol did with his art. The thing is just that Gaga realized that it's kinda ungratifying and exhausting to come up with explanations why your song about f*cking is high brow art, when she could just talk about what is actually close to her heart and share her actual feelings. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suspiria 10,683 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, Supersonic said: Honestly... it's not really that deep. Not to mention that I'm actually talking more about TF and TFM more than Born This Way (though BTW does have some meaningless generic duds that I skip nowadays like Heavy Metal Lover). But you've kinda verbalized exactly what Gaga did: Used big and fluffy words to give simple pop music a bigger and beyond meaning that it doesn't really bear. That was her thing. She was fully aware that she did that, cuz that's exactly what Andy Warhol did with his art. The thing is just that Gaga realized that it's kinda ungratifying and exhausting to come up with explanations why your song about f*cking is high brow art, when she could just talk about what is actually close to her heart and share her actual feelings. But she's still been doing the exact same thing since Joanne, but in a far less convincing and interesting way. Perfect Illusion is about social media? A makeup line is a "battle for your life"? Sis... The ASIB promo cycle was painful. Tears in her eyes as she recites the 100 people line for the billionth time, I'm actually laughing thinking about it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 There is an advantage to being a Gaga fan that isn’t so much of a pop fan but a music generalist. I fell in love with her voice and musicality in spite of her being a pop star. “Lady Gaga” has always been an ever changing persona to me and all the visuals and theatricality are interesting but not a core reason I’m a fan. To me her open humanness now is a benefit and her causes she supports are important. I like her as an actress and want to see more. Im a Stefani fan not a fan of any particular “Lady Gaga“. People get so wrapped up when she breaks their perceptions of who they think she is supposed to be. Gaga’s musical, artistic, and business interests are wider than most of her fans who are zeroed in on pop music and aesthetics. I get some of you may find it frustrating that she doesn’t only concentrate on producing your preferred variety of music now, but it’s probably the reality for the rest of her life that while she may come back to your kind of pop at times she will be exploring other things also. I have zero cares or needs for makeup, but I’m not going to whine and moan and try to tear her down. When she’s ready to release music, I’ll be ready to receive it. In the meantime many other music artists are out there and she’s given me many hours of music I can still enjoy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 No she rebranded herself which is why she’s a legend in 2019 where as in 2012 she was seen as a clown who smoked marijuana Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Suspiria said: But she's still been doing the exact same thing since Joanne, but in a far less convincing and interesting way. Perfect Illusion is about social media? A makeup line is a "battle for your life"? Sis... The ASIB promo cycle was painful. Tears in her eyes as she recites the 100 people line for the billionth time, I'm actually laughing thinking about it As per my previous post.... I don't f*cking care about promo cycles, I have better things to do. Whether you think her art is less or more convincing is just a personal opinion, which I've also said before. I don't really think there's a lot you can add or explain, so this exchange is done Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GagaStefi 1,231 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I only miss how active she was on twitter at the time... now we get her every two weeks if we’re lucky Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bling 31,439 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Yes. I really miss her don't give a **** attitude and killer avante garde lewks and memorable music videos and amazing choreo and iconic dance beats *sigh* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,494 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I still love her work from 2013 to 2018 but yes, those were the days. She was committed to her Gaga artistry every second of the day. I still think in the future she’ll deliver a creatively genius era like The Fame - Born This Way era was. Every artist have their creative peaks (in the pop scene, good examples are David Bowie, Madonna, Grace Jones). I’ve come to terms that we’re in her “resting” phase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babel 41,494 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 For those belittling her earlier work, it’s not a good look. Specially cause every now and then she give us hints that she’s still that woman that loves to drag herself up and give a middle finger up (or lick one on stage) for no reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimblue 7,334 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear 7,515 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 No not really. I get a great sense of nostalgia from her old stuff and I loved the journey we've been on, but I'm happy the with the direction she has been heading in. Personality wise I think she is more open and honest than ever. She just seems really content to do what she wants right now and there is no pretense about it. Music wise the writing on Joanne and the ASIB soundtrack have been some of the best work she has ever done imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMom 12,647 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I don’t and I can’t believe how many fans dismiss new work, particularly Joanne. It was such a personal album. Yes it is different, but her vulnerability in it and the messages she tackles in it are some of her best. I see it JUST as creative and encompassing as her early work, just in a different way. Her music and her message is becoming more mature as she ages. I would love to see for LG6 her return to Dance music but still keep the maturity from the last several years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,746 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Nope 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Only what I need from this period of time is: - more tv performaces - epic music videos - news about her almost every day Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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