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1 hour ago, Nemo said:

...among racists, yes. Otherwise, not so much.

"... I as [a] pale ass girl do not identify with black girls" Yet, you identify with mermaids?! Where's your fish tail?

Maybe try identifying with your common humanity?

Does this look like a fish? :ladyhaha:

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I don't really see a problem, I think this is a good thing :shrug:

I do get people being upset that it isn't faithful to the original cartoon because they want these live action remakes to bring what they remember as a kid back to life, but honestly I don't think Disney have captured the magic of the originals regardless :flop: This detail isn't going to hurt imo and it's better off treating these as independant movies rather than faithful reproductions of the animated films we grew up with.

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23 hours ago, Adampervez said:

By now I think everyone on this cult site knows you're prejudice and somewhat racist. This applies to a lot of people in this thread who have an issue with ariel being casted by a WOC. Ariel can be played by any race because HER RACE ISNT CRUCIAL TO THE STORY. We wouldnt cast a white woman to play a live action version of Mulan, Tiana or Pocahontas because their races are crucial to their story and plot and play a major role in their character and the setting of the story. Many people of colour are able to naturally grow red hair. It's not reserved for white people. Ariel's whiteness is simply a product of the time her movie was made. Just say you're problematic and clearly have some weird lowkey white supremacist agenda. 

For the first time ever young girls of colour can finally see themselves represented as princesses in film. What is your problem with that? For decades weve been represented as slaves, servants, peasants or villains in movies. LET US HAVE THIS ONE FOR ONCE IN OUR LIVES. 

Honestly the amount of racist people on this site is ****ing crazy. Youd think a site dedicated to lady gaga would have actual educated TOLERANT people who would be accepting and understand the complexities of races and cultures but I guess not. It's about time we start calling them out on here too. Anyway I'm gonna sign out after this because I know you're just gonna go on the defensive and attempt to prove how you're not racist but your history on this site is enough evidence for everyone else to prove otherwise. Bye 

No, that is some people's extremely uninformed and narrow view about me because they look at things far too simply and don't focus on what I'm actually saying. It looks like "their race isn't crucial to the story" is another thing to add to the list of "reasoning that would be deemed unacceptable if a character was whitewashed but is deemed wholly acceptable when the tables are turned." I have yet to hear one piece of reasoning that wouldn't automatically be thrown out if it was aimed at a role that supported whitewashing. Many fictionalised/mythical beings have been whitewashed in Hollywood and the public always (rightfully) protest this, but for some reason, being fictional/mythical is deemed as a great excuse to make an originally white character a different race from the same people who protested whitewashing. Can you not hear the inconsistencies? At least I'm consistent with my beliefs. I would be just as outraged if a white Tiana, Pochantas, Mulan, etc. were cast, hence, I am equally as outraged when a black Ariel is made. That's not racism, that's consistent standards. I already said that some black people can have red hair but it's extremely rare and they have to be half black for it to happen because the red hair came from white genes, hence, it's a traditionally white trademark. And Ariel's race is kinda crucial considering her story was written by a white Danish man and was originally set in Denmark, with even a statue made of the character (who is clearly made to look white) in Copenhagen. Disney kept faithful to that, they didn't change anything, they didn't keep her white because they were racist. It's funny, a POC's character's race is always viewed as crucial even when it's never even mentioned in a story but there's any excuse to say that a white character's race has been ambiguous, unmentioned or not even noticeable all this time when that clearly hasn't been the case. No one had a problem with these white characters being white until a few years ago, when diversity casting became more important than creating a faithful adaption that people want to see. And trust me, white supremacy isn't lowkey. If I were a white supremacist, I'd be acting very differently. My take on this specific case are sentimental and personal as Ariel looks like me and was my childhood idol, she partially helped me to accept my different appearance and love it and so many other redhaired girls said they felt the same. This is our chance for the biggest piece of representation ever in one of the most iconic redheaded roles of all time and Disney didn't think we were deserving of that even though they respected the original looks of all the previous live action adaptions. Can you not see why this has made us feel more than a bit put out?

This isn't the first time a black girl has been represented as a princess on  film, so what's "finally" about it? And don't act like there hasn't been good protagonist roles for blacks for years now, they haven't been pigeonholed into slave and villain roles alone for quite some time now, arguably, it's the best period to be black in film right now. You say "let us have this one for once in our lives" but I feel the same way about seeing a redhead girl in a protagonist role. Have you any idea how rare that is in live action film? As a matter of fact, redheaded characters have frequently had their hair colours changed when a film adaption is made. You don't seem to mind that a very small subsection of society is getting no representation at all. What if Disney doesn't make her redhaired? Will your opinion change?

I am educated and tolerant and I am highly educated in race and culture, I study this stuff all the time. Just because I have different ways of looking at things but still having an ultimately tolerant view doesn't make me racist. There's more than one way of being right, you know.

23 hours ago, RAMROD said:

:lmao:   y'all forgot that the Disney version took place in Caribbean. Not Denmark like Hans's original version was. How else you gonna explain those Carribean style castle, and patois speaking crab that is Sebastian?!?! Hence, Halle is appropriate for the casting than the iconic but white washed red headed version we have on the cartoons. I expect the prince and Triton to be POC too. This is Disney making correction of the white washing they did and got the pass since it was different times back then.

While there are obvious cues that it could be the Caribbean, what throws it off is the fact that all the characters are white with North American accents and Eric is a white prince of a kingdom. It's more like Disney took cues from multiple inspirations, like they based the location and accents on America (this area could just as easily be Florida, California or Hawaii) but based the characters looks and the royalty bit on its Danish origins. With that in mind, I came to the conclusion that it's not meant to be set in any real location, it's a fictional country that Disney dreamed up, so the reasoning of it being somewhere specific doesn't really stand. If it's based on a Danish story, then it can't have been whitewashed, the original Hans Christian Anderson's Ariel was always depicted as white well before Disney came along. I think people are just trying to rewrite the actual reality to make sense of this casting choice when it really doesn't stand.

21 hours ago, Cuchulainn said:

This doesn’t bother me. Most of the people who once identified Ariel as the princess that ‘looked’ like them have grown and I’m not exactly sure why some character in a movie matters that much to them anymore. This is Ariel for the new generation and it’s okay to make changes to fit the current social climate.

I don’t think people who wanted Ariel to look how she used to are racist though. It’s probably just nostalgia and wanting the live action to remind them a bit of their childhood.

Just wanted to say we haven't talked in months, nice to see you still around!

Yeah, Little Mermaid came out the year I was born and I grew up watching this as a child and everyone said I looked like her. I even loved how Eric tried to guess her name and threw out Rachel! Her character was so like me and although so many people see her as quite a poor feminist depiction these days, I think they give her a bit of a hard time and on the initial release, critics praised her for being the first proactive princess who wanted more than what she was used to. She actually heralded the start of the Disney princess who wanted more than her boring/royal life with the likes of Belle, Jasmine and Pocahontas shortly thereafter plus more headstrong non-royals too like Esmeralda, Meg, Mulan and Jane. So, I still identify with her even as an adult. I still get tearful when I hear her sing Part Of Your World, especially the reprise and finale. It just feels like vindication for that little girl that didn't want to have red hair (a battle a lot of us go through in our quest for acceptance) to see her put into live action, looking exactly the same, on the juggernaut that is Disney, as opposed to a smaller, unknown studio adaption. It may be for a new generation, but new generations have been watching the 1989 version too and would prefer she stayed the same. I'd honestly prefer people go back to originals than remake them anyway as I believe a lot of media can be timeless apart from if the original was considered inferior in some way, which Little Mermaid isn't. It's just so rare to see redheads as protagonists in films and have us be beautiful into the bargain. We always seem to be in the "lovable but not hot" category at best! I don't know why Hollywood keeps changing the hair colour of redheaded characters too, its happened a few times now and I don't know why. I thought Disney would realise that it could play to an under-represented group for maximum profit but I guess not.

21 hours ago, Zander said:

Ariel is more known for her red hair than her skin tone. There's no doubt Halle will have red hair for the role.  There's isn't a specific culture tied to the story so Ariel is open to interpretation, besides she's a fish... she can be whatever and her race doesn't effect the story like it would do if a white person was cast for Pocahontas, Mulan, or Princess Tiana (because of the historical and cultural connection). The animated Disney film took place in the Caribbean as opposed to the original taking place off the coast in Denmark. If you want ginger representation go watch Brave. 

While I like to think that Disney would maintain the red hair, I wouldn't put it past them to keep her black hair in a natural black hairstyle because that would really appeal to the "woke" crowd and pull in money from that market. There is a specific culture tied to the story - it was written by a Dane and set in Denmark. Most mermaids that come out of European culture are white, usually with red hair and blue eyes, it's a set look a lot of them have. There's a reason a lot of them are portrayed this way in art. I said in some replies previously that while a Caribbean setting seems the case, there's so many inconsistencies that suggest that it's merely a case of Disney just setting it in a completely fictional realm that has a mixture of all different cultures and accents. A lot of American studios do this when they adapt movies from books written by non-American authors, so the idea that it's set in the Caribbean doesn't have any real weight behind it, even the movie's official pages never mention where it's set. Sure, we have ginger representation with Merida but she's not iconic yet and Brave is too new to remake as live action (and may never, considering it was one of the lesser successes that would have difficulty translating anyway). We just want to see the OJ redhead Disney character come to life, the one that helped so many of us accept ourselves.

20 hours ago, PETTY said:

Most of us stopped reading once we got to your username LOL. Save the 5 paragraph essay responses for another post, they have no power here. 

That's the issue - people just judging me before you've properly read what I have to say and realise you have it all wrong. And a lot of people don't like my 5 paragraph responses on any topic, yet I'm sometimes picked on for not going indepth enough, so you know, it's hard to win.

16 hours ago, Aphrodizy26 said:

When people are associating “redhead” with white and using it as a PC way to say they want a white woman then yes it’s an issue.

white peoples get so many roles in Hollywood. Ariel is a mermaid. She can in fact be a black girl with a sickening red lace front. The haters can in FACT seethe. 
Before GGD tries to ban me for being “racist to white people” I’m half white and half white passing latinx (primarily Spaniard) so do not try to play them white tears here girlies. 

Because almost all redheads are white. It's a distinctly white trait that can only stand a chance of being your natural hair colour if you have some degree of white genes in you. So, no, it's not a PC thing, it's a biological thing.

Yes, whites get so many roles in Hollywood but not redheads. There's very few of them and any you do see usually aren't natural. Our redhead characters even get their hair changed sometimes, which might well happen here. This was a great chance for an unknown natural redhaired actress (maybe even from Denmark) to be famous. I think everyone needs representation but it needs to be at the appropriate time.

16 hours ago, Nemo said:

I'm pretty sure Ariel's ethnicity is Mermaid.

But she's the same colour as Cinderella, Belle, Aurora and all the other white Disney human princesses despite being a mythical creature. And her skin colour doesn't change when she becomes human. And again, that reasoning wouldn't be valid if it was a black mythical character.

14 hours ago, Borislshere said:

Your thoughts would be valid if they were doing a live adaptation of The hans version. 

But the Disney version is based on that. And again, would your reasoning be the same if the character had always been black this whole time and was changed to white? Origins of stories apparently only hold any precedence when it's not a white character involved.

4 hours ago, CrazyMonster said:

You have TONS of other movies where you can identity to every character so why are you so mad about this? Gosh white people and your tears.

Not tons of movies where we can identify with red haired blue eyed characters, though. Even when someone does have red hair, they usually get put into the green eyed side even though I've never seen a green eyed red haired person in real life.

1 hour ago, ZiggyZiggs said:

lmfaooo will u only watch a movie if you ‘ identify with a character’ ? :laughga: also don’t you have a million other princesses you can identify yourself with considering most of them are you know....white? I’m so sick of y’all complaining BECAUSE of the color of her skin, that’s racist. PeriodT.

if you want to ‘relate’ to a mermaid, you still got the original, go watch it. 

this is revolutionary casting and 10-20 years from now people are going to agree unanimously. 

also this ain’t the first time Disney has ‘race-bended’ a character(s).

recasting a ‘white’ cartoon character will never be an issue, you know why? cuz their whiteness never has anything to do with the storyline or the struggles they face. but it IS an issue if it was the other way around, cuz the color of their skin almost always has something to do the their story and their struggles, just like in real life, cuz life imitates art and vice versa 

That's funny because I've heard many POC say that identifying with a character is crucial to them and this is regarded as an acceptable thing to say. I've pointed out the absurdity of not identifying with a character for no reason other than they don't look like you but it's not always met with the same praise. The only reason I'd like Ariel to stay looking the way she does is that's how I've known her for all these years and what I've partly built up my connection with. But if she had always been black, I probably would have related to her the same. Race is no barrier to me connecting with someone but once that race has been established, I'd like it to remain, as most people do. And do you really think we can physically identify ourselves with someone for no reason other than them being white? I don't know why we're encouraged to be so simplistic. I've always found it weird how black people can say a character looks "just like me" despite them being a different black skin tone, different hair, maybe even different age. But for white people, it takes a lot more than skin colour to identify ourselves as looking "just like me" - it's absolutely everything (ok, we've got more choice of representation so we can be more picky but the theory still stands). So no, it's not as simple as we can just relate to any other Disney princess.

I'd hardly call it revolutionary casting, more forced diversity casting. You don't know what people will make of it 20 years down the line either.

Then why do people still respond with outrage to POC characters being whitewashed even in stories where race has no bearing on the character's story arc or is even acknowledged? Clearly, race is always a crucial defining factor, in that case. And for the record, I support maintaining the original race of all characters, be they fictional or not. I would never use the "fictional being" excuse if a POC character got whitewashed, nor will I do the same in reverse. 

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Let's be clear once for all "The Little Mermaid" IS NOT takes place in Carabean or America. It takes place in Denmark ! And the are many proofs of that, just watych the story ! 

Plus, it's really make me laught how ppl who want a black actress insult the ppl of being "racist" because they wants Ariel as white, but let me tell you something you are also racist toward red head community !

 

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2 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

No, that is some people's extremely uninformed and narrow view about me because they look at things far too simply and don't focus on what I'm actually saying. It looks like "their race isn't crucial to the story" is another thing to add to the list of "reasoning that would be deemed unacceptable if a character was whitewashed but is deemed wholly acceptable when the tables are turned." I have yet to hear one piece of reasoning that wouldn't automatically be thrown out if it was aimed at a role that supported whitewashing. Many fictionalised/mythical beings have been whitewashed in Hollywood and the public always (rightfully) protest this, but for some reason, being fictional/mythical is deemed as a great excuse to make an originally white character a different race from the same people who protested whitewashing. Can you not hear the inconsistencies? At least I'm consistent with my beliefs. I would be just as outraged if a white Tiana, Pochantas, Mulan, etc. were cast, hence, I am equally as outraged when a black Ariel is made. That's not racism, that's consistent standards. I already said that some black people can have red hair but it's extremely rare and they have to be half black for it to happen because the red hair came from white genes, hence, it's a traditionally white trademark. And Ariel's race is kinda crucial considering her story was written by a white Danish man and was originally set in Denmark, with even a statue made of the character (who is clearly made to look white) in Copenhagen. Disney kept faithful to that, they didn't change anything, they didn't keep her white because they were racist. It's funny, a POC's character's race is always viewed as crucial even when it's never even mentioned in a story but there's any excuse to say that a white character's race has been ambiguous, unmentioned or not even noticeable all this time when that clearly hasn't been the case. No one had a problem with these white characters being white until a few years ago, when diversity casting became more important than creating a faithful adaption that people want to see. And trust me, white supremacy isn't lowkey. If I were a white supremacist, I'd be acting very differently. My take on this specific case are sentimental and personal as Ariel looks like me and was my childhood idol, she partially helped me to accept my different appearance and love it and so many other redhaired girls said they felt the same. This is our chance for the biggest piece of representation ever in one of the most iconic redheaded roles of all time and Disney didn't think we were deserving of that even though they respected the original looks of all the previous live action adaptions. Can you not see why this has made us feel more than a bit put out?

This isn't the first time a black girl has been represented as a princess on  film, so what's "finally" about it? And don't act like there hasn't been good protagonist roles for blacks for years now, they haven't been pigeonholed into slave and villain roles alone for quite some time now, arguably, it's the best period to be black in film right now. You say "let us have this one for once in our lives" but I feel the same way about seeing a redhead girl in a protagonist role. Have you any idea how rare that is in live action film? As a matter of fact, redheaded characters have frequently had their hair colours changed when a film adaption is made. You don't seem to mind that a very small subsection of society is getting no representation at all. What if Disney doesn't make her redhaired? Will your opinion change?

I am educated and tolerant and I am highly educated in race and culture, I study this stuff all the time. Just because I have different ways of looking at things but still having an ultimately tolerant view doesn't make me racist. There's more than one way of being right, you know.

While there are obvious cues that it could be the Caribbean, what throws it off is the fact that all the characters are white with North American accents and Eric is a white prince of a kingdom. It's more like Disney took cues from multiple inspirations, like they based the location and accents on America (this area could just as easily be Florida, California or Hawaii) but based the characters looks and the royalty bit on its Danish origins. With that in mind, I came to the conclusion that it's not meant to be set in any real location, it's a fictional country that Disney dreamed up, so the reasoning of it being somewhere specific doesn't really stand. If it's based on a Danish story, then it can't have been whitewashed, the original Hans Christian Anderson's Ariel was always depicted as white well before Disney came along. I think people are just trying to rewrite the actual reality to make sense of this casting choice when it really doesn't stand.

Just wanted to say we haven't talked in months, nice to see you still around!

Yeah, Little Mermaid came out the year I was born and I grew up watching this as a child and everyone said I looked like her. I even loved how Eric tried to guess her name and threw out Rachel! Her character was so like me and although so many people see her as quite a poor feminist depiction these days, I think they give her a bit of a hard time and on the initial release, critics praised her for being the first proactive princess who wanted more than what she was used to. She actually heralded the start of the Disney princess who wanted more than her boring/royal life with the likes of Belle, Jasmine and Pocahontas shortly thereafter plus more headstrong non-royals too like Esmeralda, Meg, Mulan and Jane. So, I still identify with her even as an adult. I still get tearful when I hear her sing Part Of Your World, especially the reprise and finale. It just feels like vindication for that little girl that didn't want to have red hair (a battle a lot of us go through in our quest for acceptance) to see her put into live action, looking exactly the same, on the juggernaut that is Disney, as opposed to a smaller, unknown studio adaption. It may be for a new generation, but new generations have been watching the 1989 version too and would prefer she stayed the same. I'd honestly prefer people go back to originals than remake them anyway as I believe a lot of media can be timeless apart from if the original was considered inferior in some way, which Little Mermaid isn't. It's just so rare to see redheads as protagonists in films and have us be beautiful into the bargain. We always seem to be in the "lovable but not hot" category at best! I don't know why Hollywood keeps changing the hair colour of redheaded characters too, its happened a few times now and I don't know why. I thought Disney would realise that it could play to an under-represented group for maximum profit but I guess not.

While I like to think that Disney would maintain the red hair, I wouldn't put it past them to keep her black hair in a natural black hairstyle because that would really appeal to the "woke" crowd and pull in money from that market. There is a specific culture tied to the story - it was written by a Dane and set in Denmark. Most mermaids that come out of European culture are white, usually with red hair and blue eyes, it's a set look a lot of them have. There's a reason a lot of them are portrayed this way in art. I said in some replies previously that while a Caribbean setting seems the case, there's so many inconsistencies that suggest that it's merely a case of Disney just setting it in a completely fictional realm that has a mixture of all different cultures and accents. A lot of American studios do this when they adapt movies from books written by non-American authors, so the idea that it's set in the Caribbean doesn't have any real weight behind it, even the movie's official pages never mention where it's set. Sure, we have ginger representation with Merida but she's not iconic yet and Brave is too new to remake as live action (and may never, considering it was one of the lesser successes that would have difficulty translating anyway). We just want to see the OJ redhead Disney character come to life, the one that helped so many of us accept ourselves.

That's the issue - people just judging me before you've properly read what I have to say and realise you have it all wrong. And a lot of people don't like my 5 paragraph responses on any topic, yet I'm sometimes picked on for not going indepth enough, so you know, it's hard to win.

Because almost all redheads are white. It's a distinctly white trait that can only stand a chance of being your natural hair colour if you have some degree of white genes in you. So, no, it's not a PC thing, it's a biological thing.

Yes, whites get so many roles in Hollywood but not redheads. There's very few of them and any you do see usually aren't natural. Our redhead characters even get their hair changed sometimes, which might well happen here. This was a great chance for an unknown natural redhaired actress (maybe even from Denmark) to be famous. I think everyone needs representation but it needs to be at the appropriate time.

But she's the same colour as Cinderella, Belle, Aurora and all the other white Disney human princesses despite being a mythical creature. And her skin colour doesn't change when she becomes human. And again, that reasoning wouldn't be valid if it was a black mythical character.

But the Disney version is based on that. And again, would your reasoning be the same if the character had always been black this whole time and was changed to white? Origins of stories apparently only hold any precedence when it's not a white character involved.

Not tons of movies where we can identify with red haired blue eyed characters, though. Even when someone does have red hair, they usually get put into the green eyed side even though I've never seen a green eyed red haired person in real life.

That's funny because I've heard many POC say that identifying with a character is crucial to them and this is regarded as an acceptable thing to say. I've pointed out the absurdity of not identifying with a character for no reason other than they don't look like you but it's not always met with the same praise. The only reason I'd like Ariel to stay looking the way she does is that's how I've known her for all these years and what I've partly built up my connection with. But if she had always been black, I probably would have related to her the same. Race is no barrier to me connecting with someone but once that race has been established, I'd like it to remain, as most people do. And do you really think we can physically identify ourselves with someone for no reason other than them being white? I don't know why we're encouraged to be so simplistic. I've always found it weird how black people can say a character looks "just like me" despite them being a different black skin tone, different hair, maybe even different age. But for white people, it takes a lot more than skin colour to identify ourselves as looking "just like me" - it's absolutely everything (ok, we've got more choice of representation so we can be more picky but the theory still stands). So no, it's not as simple as we can just relate to any other Disney princess.

I'd hardly call it revolutionary casting, more forced diversity casting. You don't know what people will make of it 20 years down the line either.

Then why do people still respond with outrage to POC characters being whitewashed even in stories where race has no bearing on the character's story arc or is even acknowledged? Clearly, race is always a crucial defining factor, in that case. And for the record, I support maintaining the original race of all characters, be they fictional or not. I would never use the "fictional being" excuse if a POC character got whitewashed, nor will I do the same in reverse. 

You must be oh so oppressed baby.

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28 minutes ago, illySpencer said:

Let's be clear once for all "The Little Mermaid" IS NOT takes place in Carabean or America. It takes place in Denmark ! And the are many proofs of that, just watych the story ! 

Plus, it's really make me laught how ppl who want a black actress insult the ppl of being "racist" because they wants Ariel as white, but let me tell you something you are also racist toward red head community !

 

Redheads aren’t a race and they were not enslaved for years on end. This is comedy gold lmaooo

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8 minutes ago, Aphrodizy26 said:

Redheads aren’t a race and they were not enslaved for years on end. This is comedy gold lmaooo

OMG ! you know Red head history ? No. We have been burn as witch, considered as child from Satan all over the history, still now. We been throught a lot too ! So don't stop minimazing our story too ! Read this, a bit of cultre for you :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Northern_and_Western_Europe

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2 minutes ago, Aphrodizy26 said:

You must be oh so oppressed baby.

I didn't say I was oppressed. Just under-represented. It's one of the hardest things to find people who look like you when you have red hair. A lot of us get teased for it and are led to believe we're ugly. It means a lot of us end up dying it and straightening it out (red hair is naturally very unruly - if you see a redhaired person with straight hair, it's been altered that way). Some of us learn to love ourselves, others change it forever to the point where you'd never believe their origins if they told you. It's not that far removed from what black people go through with their natural hair acceptance. That's why this representation means so much to us. Apparently, black people need and and deserve hair representation and acceptance but redheads don't.

2 minutes ago, Aphrodizy26 said:

Redheads aren’t a race and they were not enslaved for years on end. This is comedy gold lmaooo

No, although they did come from the Neanderthal race originally and most of those genes came directly from the Vikings closer to the present day, so it is an ethnic related thing. But just because we weren't enslaved doesn't mean we shouldn't be granted the right to representation when the chance arises that's perfect for us. Representation isn't just something to be granted to the downtrodden, everyone deserves to be noticed.

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3 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

While I like to think that Disney would maintain the red hair, I wouldn't put it past them to keep her black hair in a natural black hairstyle because that would really appeal to the "woke" crowd and pull in money from that market. There is a specific culture tied to the story - it was written by a Dane and set in Denmark. Most mermaids that come out of European culture are white, usually with red hair and blue eyes, it's a set look a lot of them have. There's a reason a lot of them are portrayed this way in art. I said in some replies previously that while a Caribbean setting seems the case, there's so many inconsistencies that suggest that it's merely a case of Disney just setting it in a completely fictional realm that has a mixture of all different cultures and accents. A lot of American studios do this when they adapt movies from books written by non-American authors, so the idea that it's set in the Caribbean doesn't have any real weight behind it, even the movie's official pages never mention where it's set. Sure, we have ginger representation with Merida but she's not iconic yet and Brave is too new to remake as live action (and may never, considering it was one of the lesser successes that would have difficulty translating anyway). We just want to see the OJ redhead Disney character come to life, the one that helped so many of us accept ourselves.

At the end of the day Ariel is a mermaid - mermaids aren't real. Therefore mermaids are open to interpretation. Mulan is a story about a chinese warrior - asian people are real and are not open to racial interpretation in the story. European culture is multi-faceted.

Ariel's skin colour isn't integral to the storyline and doesn't effect the story in anyway because other disney films such as Mulan or Pocahontas where race was important to the storyline.

Disney is basing the Little Mermaid off their animated adaptation of the story which is presumed to of took place in the Caribbean and not off the original story. 

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Zander
15 minutes ago, illySpencer said:

OMG ! you know Red head history ? No. We have been burn as witch, considered as child from Satan all over the history, still now. We been throught a lot too ! So don't stop minimazing our story too ! Read this, a bit of cultre for you :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_hair#Northern_and_Western_Europe

You have to be joking. Redheads aren't currently getting  profiled or killed based on the colour of their hair. #gingerlivesmatter

 

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Gagaloo911

 

The level of racism and bigotry and ignorance coming from a Lady Gaga fan site is abhorrent and disgusting. You'd think fans of this woman would be more open-minded considering she appeals to a such a diverse audience

I guess this is what you get from a site that mostly has white people on it tho... 

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Aphrodizy26
38 minutes ago, Gagaloo92 said:

 

The level of racism and bigotry and ignorance coming from a Lady Gaga fan site is abhorrent and disgusting. You'd think fans of this woman would be more open-minded considering she appeals to a such a diverse audience

I guess this is what you get from a site that mostly has white people on it tho... 

The tea!!!! They really still trying to prove redheads need to be represented like Ariel ain’t going to most likely be in a red wig. They want to feel oppressed so bad

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Phlop

Denmark is surrounded by a lot of water. And the sea in the Little Mermaid resembles Northern European seas. I’m Hispanic and our towns don’t look like the one she and Eric were in and we don’t have high castles like that. Plus the chef spoke French, so there goes your Jamaican crab theory.

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illySpencer
1 hour ago, Zander said:

You have to be joking. Redheads aren't currently getting  profiled or killed based on the colour of their hair. #gingerlivesmatter

 

Maybe not killed but they still bullied cause they have red head ! 

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