Scooter did nothing wrong

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4 minutes ago, hausga said:

ok fine i may be under the influence or PR marketing or whatever how could you explain the treatment and conditions other artists excluding taylor swift  had under the control over these managers . its literally not about age or else wouldn't the same exception would be applied to prince,kelly clarkson,george micheal and others (apart from kesha if that you consider underage)  would had also suffered the same of fate of being exploited by the industry despite the fact they started this later during what can be considered their adult consent age

prove me wrong

The industry is ruled by hustlers. Gaga said something early on that I always remember, about artists struggling when they refuse to play the game. You have to play the game or else YOU the artist gets played. That’s why so many drop out, become bankrupt, get abused, or just languish with barely a income to pay rent. Sadly there is no rule book for how NOT to get treated like shi t. Never make a decision without having a lawyer? Maybe through education, like if they taught things like this and contracts in schools, kids wouldn’t drift into this fantasy world of heroes and villains. It is a very complex issue. 99% of artists are poor. But the business players always stay in the game. 

So it helps to either a) have parents like Taylor’s and START young or b) hustle your way like Gaga. But always get legal and financial advice before you put your name on anything.

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10 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said:

Michael Jackson out bid Paul McCarthy. That is not the same thing. Taylor didn't have a chance to buy her music. She was told to resign or no deal basically.

So yeah basically you cant decide who owns your Music, this is not Taylor, its everyone.

She was never asked to resign. They told her she can own  one  album every time she releases a new album. This will force her to stay with the record label for another decade.

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6 minutes ago, FlopSlurper said:

did you skip the part where she wasn't offered the right to buy her music or? she left because SHE HAD TO, she literally had to either sign her life to them or leave, is it that difficult to understand?

"little white girl vs mean black guy scenario" he got exposed, the original demo leaked and he wasn't saying "I made that bitch famous" meaning this isn't the line taylor agreed to, which is what she talked about in the beginning, but sure stand with the lying trump supporter.

"uses the gay community when it suits" this is just bullshit, the biggest pop start in the world literally needs nothing from the gay community, if anything she could be better off not supporting us and remaining neutral. but she took the risk and supported us. What does she get in return? a punch of ungrateful hateful rats. Stop being entitled, I WISH anyone from the arab world would support us publicly instead of preaching about how we should all die, and you're out there whining that the biggest pop star is supporting us? how privileged can you get.

Did you skip the part where she was offered her masters to stay with the label? She could’ve stayed and earned the rights to the masters as they offered her or she could’ve negotiated a new contract. She chose to leave knowing exactly what that would mean, but now she gets to be a victim??

And no to everything else. She is and never will be a gay ally. She’s doing it because it’s convenient and it’s not risky at all to be a female pop star and support the gay community. We are the biggest fans of female pop stars. Everyone from Cher to Madonna to Gaga have supported the gay community without hesitation and very early in their careers before it was even acceptable so let’s not act like she’s doing something brave here.

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57 minutes ago, MrG1087 said:

Trend I’m noticing is that a lot of female artists are having these problems. I could be wrong but I haven’t heard of a male artist going through the same problem.

 

Google

George Michael vs Sony,

Prince vs Warner Bros, why he changed his name to a symbol etc 

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Seriously i dont give a f about the male and female thing 

Next he did some pretty serious stuffy to taylor like Famous MV video 

Next he is an a**hole and liar .

Always hides behind JB and Ariana #pathetic .... he is literally the male version of Kim K .

You should visit his insta ..omg that undeserving bragging he does in social media 😣

Spoiler

You can have your opinion and some of your opinions are 👏👌 but he is doing some shady stuff behind the scenes ..sorry for my bad english ... i am fuming right now ... that pathetic creature needs to take down by anyone . 

 

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2 minutes ago, hausga said:

i honestly don't get you guys who guys hate people who recently just started to show their support for the lgbt for silence but then also hate people for exploiting the lgbt community from the very start

all i am saying no one is sincere looking outside this stan and fanfic world no one knows who is the most sincere and who is not.many people have also called gaga fake and manipulative for using gay rights to  boost her career. can we provide evidence to prove this wrong with actual receipts ....no we can't despite how evil and complict a person looks from the outside we can't really read and explain the inner mind of what the person or artist is thinking because from your thinking taylor is also a nazi sympathiser while gaga exploits the gays becoming a gay messiah or whatever ,katy perry is a puppet slave of female exploitation and of sexual attraction in the industry while beyonce is the black woman who decided oh no the black rights are being disadvantaged and exploited let me became the  leader of this discriminated race in order to boost my career and make me a legacy artist

this is now naive and ignorant you sound.... really cuz honestly speaking every artist is to an extent fake and has to do whatever it can to boost his or her career and i mean every artist

Sorry I’m too naive and ignorant to understand all the incoherent ramblings in your response and I literally have no idea what your point is supposed to be? 

Gaga is a gay messiah because she pretends to support the gays while advancing her career? Is that your point? I’m not going to list all the amazing things Gaga has done to speak out and support the gay community since day one of her career, but if you want to pretend like T. Swift is the second coming because she suddenly decided two albums after her peak to support the gay community then go ahead sis you can have it lol.

 

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1 hour ago, Edonis said:

Additionally, if the details are true, then Taylor was offered a pretty unfair deal. A lot of people talk about this from a negative standpoint, but we know the tune of this site would be almost an entire 360 if Gaga was in this position and Troy Carter bought her Masters, or (not likely) Rob Fusari.

Exactly! If Interscope decided to sell off Gaga's catalogue, didn't give her a chance to buy it and then sold to Troy Carter this site would burn. And if that were the case it could be argued that Troy "did nothing wrong", he was just making a business deal, but come on. It's not just a business deal if there is negative history there.

In Taylor's case she was offered a bad deal to earn the masters back, and then was also kept from being able to just buy the label outright. I'm sure she could have easily gotten the money together to make the same deal for Big Machine that Scooter did, but she was purposely not given the chance. That's where the major problem lies. And there is no way that Scooter doesn't know he has a contentious relationship with Taylor. He's been posting jokes about buying her, he knows exactly what he's doing. 

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13 minutes ago, Wifey said:

Did you skip the part where she was offered her masters to stay with the label? She could’ve stayed and earned the rights to the masters as they offered her or she could’ve negotiated a new contract..

the point is that she was being manipulated to get trapped, either stay and for each album you release we'll give you an album back (meaning that's 15 years of her career at least gone) or leave. There was no other contract, no negotiation accepted, nothing (once again go read the contract and read the statements of people who are familiar with the situation).

13 minutes ago, Wifey said:

And no to everything else. She is and never will be a gay ally. She’s doing it because it’s convenient and it’s not risky at all to be a female pop star and support the gay community. We are the biggest fans of female pop stars. Everyone from Cher to Madonna to Gaga have supported the gay community without hesitation and very early in their careers before it was even acceptable so let’s not act like she’s doing something brave here.

she is a gay ally and you will deal, be it a second into her career or a decade into her career, the fact that she publicly voiced her support is enough. y'all want allies unless it's someone you hate then you wanna be all hateful and entitled, when in truth she's someone with a huge impact and can influence millions to open up and be accepting, but no you'd rather stay shallow and hateful. And FYI, this isn't the first time she supports the gay, she's been since 1989 era. Also another FYI, she has millions of gay fans that consider her a gay icon. So get out of ur bubble and stop being hateful.

edit: right, no response because you know you're wrong and just being bitter towards her

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3 minutes ago, LaLa said:

Exactly! If Interscope decided to sell off Gaga's catalogue, didn't give her a chance to buy it and then sold to Troy Carter this site would burn. And if that were the case it could be argued that Troy "did nothing wrong", he was just making a business deal, but come on. It's not just a business deal if there is negative history there.

 

The exact same people writing essays about this situation would absolutely be upset I agree, it would be incredibly hypocritical. Especially since we know Gaga signed her contract at an especially young age. She did re-negotiate back in 2016, but we don't know  anything about the contingencies surrounding that deal.

And I would like to add that musicians feeling scammed out  of their art is not a new concept at all. And it almost always ends unfairly to the artist. You don't have to like Swift, but you can't lack at least some sympathy for this kind of situation and be upset about others. Yes she signed the contract, but she was also 15.

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10 minutes ago, LaLa said:

Exactly! If Interscope decided to sell off Gaga's catalogue, didn't give her a chance to buy it and then sold to Troy Carter this site would burn. And if that were the case it could be argued that Troy "did nothing wrong", he was just making a business deal, but come on. It's not just a business deal if there is negative history there.

In Taylor's case she was offered a bad deal to earn the masters back, and then was also kept from being able to just buy the label outright. I'm sure she could have easily gotten the money together to make the same deal for Big Machine that Scooter did, but she was purposely not given the chance. That's where the major problem lies. And there is no way that Scooter doesn't know he has a contentious relationship with Taylor. He's been posting jokes about buying her, he knows exactly what he's doing. 

Troy has already inked a deal with SonyATV who owns the publishing rights to Gaga's records   

https://www.forbes.com/sites/korihale/2019/05/14/sonyatv-inks-global-deal-with-former-spotify-exec/#6ed4700f3a0e

I don't exactly understand what this means, and how this affects Gaga. But she seems unfazed, or at least taking the classy route of keeping her business deals private. 

 

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2 hours ago, pedrohemg said:

. It seems we're again in a crusade to destroy a man image only because he's a man and there's a woman against him. This have become pretty common in the last couple of years.

Is this 4chandaily now?

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5 minutes ago, doppelganger said:

Troy has already inked a deal with SonyATV who owns the publishing rights to Gaga's records   

https://www.forbes.com/sites/korihale/2019/05/14/sonyatv-inks-global-deal-with-former-spotify-exec/#6ed4700f3a0e

 

Right, but that is Troy's tech company (Q&A) working with SonyATV to manage Q&A's catalogue, not that Troy owns anything of Gaga's. 

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2 minutes ago, LaLa said:

Right, but that is Troy's tech company (Q&A) working with SonyATV to manage Q&A's catalogue, not that Troy owns anything of Gaga's. 

I guess so. But Q&A is a tech company and is very new, what 'catalogue' do they really own?  I'm baffled. 

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26 minutes ago, doppelganger said:

I guess so. But Q&A is a tech company and is very new, what 'catalogue' do they really own?  I'm baffled. 

Doesn’t look like they have any big name artists yet (I didn’t recognize the name), but I think their goal as a company is to get more, they seem to have their fingers in many pies. Don’t worry, it really doesn’t have anything to do with Gaga though!