highlikegaga 9,022 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, corvus albus said: The VMA's are for people that want something from them. Falling artists want a cushion to fall on and rising artists need exposure. Considering how many big stars were not there and weren't for so many years it's no surprise that the ratings are this low. The VMA's offer nothing but that small promo boost and most artist don't value it as important enough anymore. This cycle continues into infinity unless MTV as a whole will be canceled. 38 minutes ago, ferretti said: I'm sure they want better ratings, but it's more about the cultural moment/online sharing and discussion. It makes sure people still know MTV exists and 'matters' and it provides boosts and sometimes good performances for people to digest. It's a pop event that matters even when not watched ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ . Honestly, I think they'll move the VMAs (and maybe all award shows) to a primarily online event (still aired on MTV proper of course). If they were smart they'd partner with YouTube or Netflix. But really, they'll wait for Viacom's response to Netflix/Disney+/Amazon and steam on that. Once the VMAs are fully a streamed affair, I think they'll rise again in viewership (I doubt they'll share hard ratings one that happens). 2 minutes ago, nikola said: Problem with VMAs this day is that they don't have big names with a big fanbase that will watch the show... GP is not going to watch it... VMAs were and always will be for the fans... and when you have only people with small fanbases or people that rely only on gp.for success than of course, the ratings will be bad... The only one that was there with huge fanbase was Taylor and that's it . i agree with all 3 posts. the only exposure artist get is when they upload the videos to Youtube. (i also watched the performances i cared about on youtube) Maybe the VMAs still have some name recognition when it comes to the performances and the GP knowing that eg Taylor performed there. But no one will bother to watch live anymore. And all TV cares about is the live numbers. with that in mind out of the 1.9m total - 0.9m were in the 18-40 demo, everyone cares about. And 0.9 demo is surprisingly "good" for TV nowadays. still, it makes me wonder how MTV gets their money to sponsor such a ratings flop, when most of the money come from the commercials and I can't see people paying good bucks to have their ads show during the VMAs. it's really weird that they keep going, but it's good to see the cute boosts everyone who performed gets. so in the end that's all that matters. whether it's live or on youtube the next day, the boosts are real. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bloody g 31,746 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, highlikegaga said: i just woke up to VMAs ratings. and i saw someone posted them here, but 1.9m is sooo bad, you guys. I think AHS has better ratings 『𝐟𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐧𝐨𝐭 𝐛𝐞 𝐜𝐡𝐚𝐧𝐠𝐞𝐝』 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
highlikegaga 9,022 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, Bloody Grammys said: I think AHS has better ratings it does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikola 4,342 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 11 minutes ago, highlikegaga said: i agree with all 3 posts. the only exposure artist get is when they upload the videos to Youtube. (i also watched the performances i cared about on youtube) Maybe the VMAs still have some name recognition when it comes to the performances and the GP knowing that eg Taylor performed there. But no one will bother to watch live anymore. And all TV cares about is the live numbers. with that in mind out of the 1.9m total - 0.9m were in the 18-40 demo, everyone cares about. And 0.9 demo is surprisingly "good" for TV nowadays. still, it makes me wonder how MTV gets their money to sponsor such a ratings flop, when most of the money come from the commercials and I can't see people paying good bucks to have their ads show during the VMAs. it's really weird that they keep going, but it's good to see the cute boosts everyone who performed gets. so in the end that's all that matters. whether it's live or on youtube the next day, the boosts are real. They need to change the way they are presenting VMAs... Maybe they should try streaming it on YouTube, twitch or anywhere tbh... Also, they need to call artists that actually have fanbases... It's ok to call smaller artists that are new and that need exposure but the show can't rely just on them... It will simply not bring good ratings I've got an "F" and a "C" and I got a "K" too And the only thing that is missing is a bitch like "U" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asana15 16,648 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 2 hours ago, corvus albus said: Why? Receipts? Can be next fall too Because it's my take on "f". Or, better yet, it stands for "finished". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andreu 37,216 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 10 minutes ago, asana15 said: Because it's my take on "f". Or, better yet, it stands for "finished". actually finished is the option that makes the most sense now that u say it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
corvus albus 38,031 Posted August 28, 2019 Author Share Posted August 28, 2019 20 minutes ago, Andreu said: actually finished is the option that makes the most sense now that u say it 31 minutes ago, asana15 said: Because it's my take on "f". Or, better yet, it stands for "finished". I agree Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris2 9,239 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 “F” stands for f*ck after seeing Taylor’s numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bt1 5,213 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Ava Max didnt even make it to 1 m views. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PanPikus 9,879 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 For Gaga f is fad. For Us f is fools. For LG6 f is flop or fiction. For Earth f is flat. Na Wojtusia z popielnika, iskiereczka mruga, chodź opowiem Ci bajeczkę, bajka będzie długa... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teal Ambition 47,805 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 Looks like he might release an album soon enough ▌│█║▌║▌║ before I am Canadian, I am Chromatican ║▌║▌║█│▌ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebe Buffay 12,525 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Teal Ambition said: Looks like he might release an album soon enough Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doncho 27,241 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Florin said: Ava Max didnt even make it to 1 m views. It reached 1M now And she is a new artist, of course it wont be that fast Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runway 27,876 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Supersonic said: That Gaga won't release (and that she basically changes her plans up very often, meaning he can't really spill some tea on her releases even if he has something from the source, because she is so indecisive about it) fad scared to flop! a Selena tea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arturo 40,746 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Runway said: fad scared to flop! a Selena tea I can’t imagine Gaga and her team looking at OTR back in April and moving the single 5+ months away.....but if they really did that then it shows me a couple things 1. Her team is getting more competent at avoiding competition on the charts 2. Her team really believes the lead has a shot at #1.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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