Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 This is going to be a controversial thing for me to say, but Madonna is absolutely 100% my favorite vocalist. Not just performer, songwriter, dancer, etc - but my favorite vocalist. For the majority of her career Madonna has been called a bad singer, or not given enough credit for the amazing vocals she has. She may not be a technically trained singer (even though she has had voice lessons), and maybe isn't the type of singer to do any over the top high notes, or vocal runs. But there is something about the tone of her voice, and the way you can feel the emotion of the song when she sings, that makes me adore her voice. It brings me comfort, joy, and can help me let out all of my emotions during a good cry. In certain studio tracks like "Nothing Fails", "X-Static Process", "Gone", "Intervention", "Oh Father", "Promise to Try" "Spanish Eyes", "I'll Remember" and countless more, her vocals just have a way of making me feel at home. Here are some good examples of live performances, where you can truly hear the beauty in her voice and where you can feel that deep emotion that she is singing through: Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Sorry to burst your bubble, but in my opinion, Vocalists have to be at least decently equipped with vocal techniques and skills. Madonna displays a minimal of those, so she's a singer, not a vocalist. Singing with emotion =/ vocalist. She's a mediocre singer at best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirages 20,259 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I love some of Madge's work and songs but for me but her tone especially lately is terrible. But everybody's entitles to their own opinion even if it's wrong I'm the bitch that's fragile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Mirages said: I love some of Madge's work and songs but for me but her tone especially lately is terrible. But everybody's entitles to their own opinion even if it's wrong you're always so salty to me. damn mariah stan Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, JR Gg said: Sorry to burst your bubble, but in my opinion, Vocalists have to be at least decently equipped with vocal techniques and skills. Madonna displays a minimal of those, so she's a singer, not a vocalist. Singing with emotion =/ vocalist. She's a mediocre singer at best. And in my opinion, emotion counts more than technique. I'd rather listen to a someone singing with little flaws in their voice, yet full of emotion and passion, rather than a technically trained singer who is more focused on getting everything right than singing from the heart. But i respect your opinion, everyone likes different things. I know a lot of people who prefer technically trained singers, who hit a bunch of notes and all that. But for me, miss Ciccone is where its at. Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexanderMagno 10,746 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I honestly don't care about who's the better vocalist, but I just want to say that you don't need to have a powerhouse voice to be a good vocalist. It's about the type of songs that you sing, the kind of emotions you want to express. Personally, I still think Gaga's voice was the best in the beginning, because she was not focused in giving a strong voice, she was focused in the song itself. She didn't sing like Whitney Houston, but she cried her heart out. Gaga cares too much about technique, and that is why I'm no longer a stan. Same with Madonna, her focus is not doing powerhouse. Singing with emotion doesn't require big pipes, look at Paparazzi VMA 2009... That last chorus still gives me chills, damn. Bjork is one of the best vocalists for me and she's no Beyoncé. On the other hand, I can't listen to Beyonce, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera without roll my eyes (except Lemonade, that is a good example of a good album that doesn't rely on strong pipes). (on the other hand, you have Adele. I love Adele's voice, she has PIPES, but she's not technically perfect. She sings with her voice, and her voice is already amazing with her own tone) On topic, I'm listening to Madonna's Dark Ballet and I just feel that she has some troubles adjusting her concepts to her voice. The robotic effects, the autotunes, the placements, all a bit all over the place, and then there's an idea behind it that simply is not effective. Maybe she should had released the whole album at once instead of these one songs releases, since the album is supposed to be a cohesive work. So that's it, Madonna is a good vocalist but it appears she has troubles placing her voice correctly into her ideas. I do love Crave and I Rise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, AlexanderMagno said: I honestly don't care about who's the better vocalist, but I just want to say that you don't need to have a powerhouse voice to be a good vocalist. It's about the type of songs that you sing, the kind of emotions you want to express. Personally, I still think Gaga's voice was the best in the beginning, because she was not focused in giving a strong voice, she was focused in the song itself. She didn't sing like Whitney Houston, but she cried her heart out. Gaga cares too much about technique, and that is why I'm no longer a stan. Same with Madonna, her focus is not doing powerhouse. Singing with emotion doesn't require big pipes, look at Paparazzi VMA 2009... That last chorus still gives me chills, damn. Bjork is one of the best vocalists for me and she's no Beyoncé. On the other hand, I can't listen to Beyonce, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey or Christina Aguilera without roll my eyes (except Lemonade, that is a good example of a good album that doesn't rely on strong pipes). (on the other hand, you have Adele. I love Adele's voice, she has PIPES, but she's not technically perfect. She sings with her voice, and her voice is already amazing with her own tone) On topic, I'm listening to Madonna's Dark Ballet and I just feel that she has some troubles adjusting her concepts to her voice. The robotic effects, the autotunes, the placements, all a bit all over the place, and then there's an idea behind it that simply is not effective. Maybe she should had released the whole album at once instead of these one songs releases, since the album is supposed to be a cohesive work. So that's it, Madonna is a good vocalist but it appears she has troubles placing her voice correctly into her ideas. I do love Crave and I Rise. I would LOVE to hear a demo of "Dark Ballet" where she sings it raw the way it was done at the Met Gala. She sounded so angry, and emotional. It wasn't a perfect delivery, but I absolutely loved the way she sang it. Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyQueen 2,409 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I am a fan because of her voice. I am glad that she doesnt have a "range" couse everybody scream to much this days. Storytelling voices are pure gold! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirages 20,259 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 7 minutes ago, Musicisfreedom said: you're always so salty to me. damn mariah stan I am sorry, but I wouldn't be if your opinions weren't pitiable I honestly love Madonna's work, she's a great artist, but I ain't feeling the new album like at all it's dreadful. And I wouldn't call her a vocalist, she's a singer and a great performer I think she sould maybe just stop with the new music and become a legacy artist and tour her best songs and albums a.k.a. Ray of Light, Confessions on a Dance Floor and Like a Prayer I'm the bitch that's fragile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyQueen 2,409 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, Mirages said: I am sorry, but I wouldn't be if your opinions weren't pitiable I honestly love Madonna's work, she's a great artist, but I ain't feeling the new album like at all it's dreadful. And I wouldn't call her a vocalist, she's a singer and a great performer I think she sould maybe just stop with the new music and become a legacy artist and tour her best songs and albums a.k.a. Ray of Light, Confessions on a Dance Floor and Like a Prayer NO! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Mirages said: I am sorry, but I wouldn't be if your opinions weren't pitiable I honestly love Madonna's work, she's a great artist, but I ain't feeling the new album like at all it's dreadful. And I wouldn't call her a vocalist, she's a singer and a great performer I think she sould maybe just stop with the new music and become a legacy artist and tour her best songs and albums a.k.a. Ray of Light, Confessions on a Dance Floor and Like a Prayer Says the Mariah fan I don't think Madonna should ever repeat herself. That is her whole narrative after all. She doesn't want to be a legacy artist, and shouldn't be. Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Musicisfreedom 5,837 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, MyQueen said: I am a fan because of her voice. I am glad that she doesnt have a "range" couse everybody scream to much this days. Storytelling voices are pure gold! True. I feel like she does have a storyteller voice, full of emotion and passion. I loved the American Life performances where it just felt so raw and intimate. Where her voice was just so golden. Bitch I'm Madonna Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Hybrid 11,049 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 10 minutes ago, AlexanderMagno said: Gaga cares too much about technique, and that is why I'm no longer a stan. I mean... Bye? No family’s safe when I sashay Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirages 20,259 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 3 minutes ago, Musicisfreedom said: Says the Mariah fan Saying that as if it was something bad, but we all know who has more #1s and can sing the other one under the table 5 minutes ago, Musicisfreedom said: I don't think Madonna should ever repeat herself. That is her whole narrative after all. She doesn't want to be a legacy artist, and shouldn't be. Well then maybe she should do something along that has class and quality to it, because the Madame X songs ain't cutting it so far and neither are the performances she's been dragged for it almost everywhere. 9 minutes ago, MyQueen said: NO! Why not? I'm the bitch that's fragile Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyQueen 2,409 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Musicisfreedom said: True. I feel like she does have a storyteller voice, full of emotion and passion. I loved the American Life performances where it just felt so raw and intimate. Where her voice was just so golden. Yes I also like her pre ROL voice....raw I just realise that I have been M stan for 30 years when LAP came out She raised me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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