Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, gabeoz said: I meant general population migration. Of course some cities grows much faster than others. Yeah.... The growth is exeptionally concentrated here in specific areas... Hence crazy growth rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 21 minutes ago, gumzy3000 said: I live in Toronto and the traffic is getting really bad. Public transportation is also severely congested and too many condos are being built everywhere. It’s becoming huge and I don’t think it’s a bad thing but there needs to be proper infrastructure (roads, subways, etc) that need to be built to accommodate a growing population. The buses are everywhere in addition to the street cars and subways Once I saw 7 busses in one intersection. 3 on one side, 2 on 2 of the sides and 1 on the other side.... This was close to steels I think And they still so full Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 27 minutes ago, OBEY said: tbh I don't like Toronto. I feel like there's too much buildings and nothing is charming about it. and it's kind of boring, club/bar wise, from what I've experienced . sorry. Bar and club wise and in terms of partying I like Montreal better tbh My friends and I had some serious party days.... Toronto is alright for that but Montreal is the best city we found for that in Canada Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuckles 2,549 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 I think Toronto is way overpacked. I had the pleasure to visit in december and I thought that the public transportation was perfection tbh. However, I will scape from there during the winter months without second guessing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,664 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 i still don't get why canada isn't cutting immigration rates by half so life can be more affordable for everyone Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thNote 1,390 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 Believe it or not Columbus, Ohio is booming right now too and facing a housing problem too. Our population went from 670,000 in 2010 to 905,000 now. In 2010 we were the 18th Biggest City in the United States and now we are 13th. We're expected to be in the Top 10 by 2025. USA Today put out an article last week that said Columbus just surpassed San Francisco in population. Crazy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 22 minutes ago, ChrisC said: i still don't get why canada isn't cutting immigration rates by half so life can be more affordable for everyone If our government would just raise retirement age like other developed nations are doing to compensate for longer life expectancies and lower birth rates maybe we Wouldn't have to accept such a large number of immigrants to keep our workforce and demographics stable Harper did what was necessary when he raised it to 67 and Trudeau for campaigning went and reversed a necessary reform And what does he do Instead to keep demographics stable? Raise immigration from 250,000 a year to 330,000 a year, a number that is hard to absorb without infrastructure and housing constraints (and housing was already tight to begin with before his annual increase) Our economic challanges will never be solved as long as people oppose making necessary sacrifices Until ppl in this country accept that we can't keep retirement age at 65 anymore, there's gonna be pain one way or another... Either the economy stalls from too many ppl retiring and our standard of living drops, or we have to accept an unreasonable number of young people yearly to compensate and the unbearable housing costs also affect our standard of living Canadians stubborn stance on keeping retirement the standard 65 is costing us more pain than the pain if just working 2 or 3 extra years USA, UK, Germany, Italy, Portugal... Countless other first world nations have either raised or are making plans to do so... We need to as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, The13thNote said: Believe it or not Columbus, Ohio is booming right now too and facing a housing problem too. Our population went from 670,000 in 2010 to 905,000 now. In 2010 we were the 18th Biggest City in the United States and now we are 13th. We're expected to be in the Top 10 by 2025. USA Today put out an article last week that said Columbus just surpassed San Francisco in population. Crazy. My suburb city (Brampton) also climbed up the ranks fast We were pretty irrelevant 20 years ago now we are the 8th biggest city in Canada and 3rd biggest city in the Toronto area I know the feeling of growing pains When I moved here 14 years ago it was a peaceful medium sized city now when I leave the gym at 8:30 pm I can no longer make a left on the road and it's supposed to be past rush hour Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 117,061 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 A: Where are you going? B: To Ron Toe Anyway, Toronto must be like Canada's New York or something, so no wonder it grows at faster pace (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ✧*:・゚ ᶠʳᵒⁿᵗ ᵗᵒʷᵃʳᵈ ᵉⁿᵉᵐʸ (*´艸`*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 15 minutes ago, RAMROD said: A: Where are you going? B: To Ron Toe Anyway, Toronto must be like Canada's New York or something, so no wonder it grows at faster pace It is basically lol. The Toronto Metro and cities near it are like 20% of Canada's population Canada's second largest city (Montreal) is not much more than half the size and that city is growing much slower too Of course NYC is over 8 million I think for the city alone Toronto just crossed 6 Million for the metro. Although the golden horshoe area is practically all attached as one big city and that area is 9 Million... But some cities attached that are further out are no longer considered part of the metro Like this city "Cambridge" for example is considered part of the Toronto metro and the next city that is completely attached too "Kitchener" no longer is So in technical terms the metro is 6 Million but the area of attached civilization in Toronto is around 9 to 9.5 Million So Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world by area but 1/4 of the population is concentrated in the golden horshoe area Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delulu Rogers 7,664 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Economy said: If our government would just raise retirement age like other developed nations are doing to compensate for longer life expectancies and lower birth rates maybe we Wouldn't have to accept such a large number of immigrants to keep our workforce and demographics stable Harper did what was necessary when he raised it to 67 and Trudeau for campaigning went and reversed a necessary reform And what does he do Instead to keep demographics stable? Raise immigration from 250,000 a year to 330,000 a year, a number that is hard to absorb without infrastructure and housing constraints (and housing was already tight to begin with before his annual increase) Our economic challanges will never be solved as long as people oppose making necessary sacrifices Until ppl in this country accept that we can't keep retirement age at 65 anymore, there's gonna be pain one way or another... Either the economy stalls from too many ppl retiring and our standard of living drops, or we have to accept an unreasonable number of young people yearly to compensate and the unbearable housing costs also affect our standard of living Canadians stubborn stance on keeping retirement the standard 65 is costing us more pain than the pain if just working 2 or 3 extra years USA, UK, Germany, Italy, Portugal... Countless other first world nations have either raised or are making plans to do so... We need to as well Why can't retirement age stay at 65 and we lower the immigration rate to 100,000. That way everyone is happy. I can't wait for Trudeau to be kicked out in October Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 Just now, ChrisC said: Why can't retirement age stay at 65 and we lower the immigration rate to 100,000. That way everyone is happy. I can't wait for Trudeau to be kicked out in October Ur part of the problem then if u think it's not big deal to keep it at 65. It's not sustainable the system was never designed to have such a high percentage of the population collecting CPP in relation to ones contributing to it 65 is a very old standard that was set when ppl lived way less years and average population age was much lower. It's time for the population to stop being petty and accept reality I just explained to u why keeping retirement at 65 is forcing us to except so many immigrants If we don't except so many immigrants, the working demographics take a hit. We can't accept only 100,000 longer term if we don't reform old age security or raise retirement Either we suffer with too many immigrants straining housing and infrastructure, or we suck it up and work a few extra years It's one or the other. This demographic chance has no way of dealing with it without some unpleasant change Ppl expecting the government to fix problems but never willing to accept some sacrifices is part of societies problem and why issues get kicked down the road and not resolved. Politicians piss me off but so does the public tbh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delusional Aura 5,129 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 10 hours ago, Economy said: If our government would just raise retirement age like other developed nations are doing to compensate for longer life expectancies and lower birth rates maybe we Wouldn't have to accept such a large number of immigrants to keep our workforce and demographics stable Harper did what was necessary when he raised it to 67 and Trudeau for campaigning went and reversed a necessary reform And what does he do Instead to keep demographics stable? Raise immigration from 250,000 a year to 330,000 a year, a number that is hard to absorb without infrastructure and housing constraints (and housing was already tight to begin with before his annual increase) Our economic challanges will never be solved as long as people oppose making necessary sacrifices Until ppl in this country accept that we can't keep retirement age at 65 anymore, there's gonna be pain one way or another... Either the economy stalls from too many ppl retiring and our standard of living drops, or we have to accept an unreasonable number of young people yearly to compensate and the unbearable housing costs also affect our standard of living Canadians stubborn stance on keeping retirement the standard 65 is costing us more pain than the pain if just working 2 or 3 extra years USA, UK, Germany, Italy, Portugal... Countless other first world nations have either raised or are making plans to do so... We need to as well That moment when old people would soon have to work till they die . Thank God I'm 22 and I'm seeing what mess the world is becoming. I am not working beyond 55. So I have about 30 years to build my portfolio so I could live off that and not give one eff about the government. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 52,854 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Share Posted June 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Delusional Aura said: That moment when old people would soon have to work till they die . Thank God I'm 22 and I'm seeing what mess the world is becoming. I am not working beyond 55. So I have about 30 years to build my portfolio so I could live off that and not give one eff about the government. "Until they die" Bish, the proposed increases in retirement age don't come even close to matching how much life expectancy has increased since 65 was set The average person spends more years retired now than every before and ur talking about the world becoming a mess as if it was the apposite Decades ago many didn't even get to enjoy retirement at all Ppl need to stop being spoiled babies and accept reality Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whispering 18,865 Posted June 7, 2019 Share Posted June 7, 2019 54 minutes ago, Economy said: "Until they die" Bish, the proposed increases in retirement age don't come even close to matching how much life expectancy has increased since 65 was set The average person spends more years retired now than every before and ur talking about the world becoming a mess as if it was the apposite Decades ago many didn't even get to enjoy retirement at all Ppl need to stop being spoiled babies and accept reality Decades ago, someone in a position like yours would have worked their manual labor job until they died. They wouldn’t have had an option to take online courses as they worked or even be a “personal trainer”. People didn’t waste time going to gyms, they worked hard at their jobs and around their home. You might feel different after you’ve worked for fifty years at your job you don’t even want to be at now. You might be ready for a few years to relax, do hobbies, visit family, travel, etc. Wanting to have a few years at the end of your life isn’t any more being a spoiled baby than people looking for their job that they are “passionate” over. Generations ago, people weren’t so concerned over being “happy” at work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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