The13thNote 1,390 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 minute ago, mauvais said: Self made basically means "didn't inherit their networth from daddy." Whatever Joe's net worth was before she became famous, it's nothing compared to the dynastic wealth of multi-millionaires and billionaires. The richest family in the world, the Walton family, are the antithesis of self-made billionaires, though their father was "self made." Joe nor did Xtina's vocal coach ever tell Lady Gaga to become "Lady Gaga". Infact, they discouraged it at one point. Argument over. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOMSHELL 2,708 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 41 minutes ago, Wifey said: She’s signed to a record label. She is not self-made. Tonight on comments that will stir the drama pot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ronk 14,760 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 49 minutes ago, LouiseVeronica said: What exactly qualifies someone as being "self made"? I mean Gaga had a LOT of help getting to where she is at, she went to a private prestigious performing arts school and took vocal lessons from Christina Aguelera's vocal coach by the time she was 11 years old thanks to coming from her wealthy family. She then had an entire team of artists help create the "gaga" persona that made her famous. She's an incredible artist, but self made? Not so sure about that. She worked very hard to get where she is, and she overcame many obstacles. Her success comes from inner strength and determination. I would call her self made. I live outside the space time continuum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR Gg 12,985 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 It's probably because she didn't bother to report her assets and others to Forbes. C'mon now, Taylor Swift and Kylie Jenner aren't exactly coming off a poor background. Gaga would've been considered self-made too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thNote 1,390 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, mauvais said: Your reading comprehension, man I comprehended it quite well and although her father might have been "upper middle class" by the time she was 14.....she certainly never inherited a voice, hundreds of millions of dollars, 9 Grammys, 13 VMAs, 2 Golden Globes, and an Oscar (or her strong independent woman's instinct to test the odds) from her dad. Stefani made Gaga herself. There are plenty of girls richer than Gaga ever was on the Upper East Side that tried to have music careers (cough Paris Hilton cough) thatnever could have created what Gaga has. And the $300M+ sitti g in her bankaccount didn't come from daddy. By your logic no artist is self made because nearly all of them had paid for vocal and music training. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie Winters 1,628 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 4 minutes ago, The13thNote said: I comprehended it quite well and although her father might have been "upper middle class" by the time she was 14.....she certainly never inherited a voice, hundreds of millions of dollars, 9 Grammys, 13 VMAs, 2 Golden Globes, and an Oscar (or her strong independent woman's instinct to test the odds) from her dad. Stefani made Gaga herself. There are plenty of girls richer than Gaga ever was on the Upper East Side that tried to have music careers (cough Paris Hilton cough) thatnever could have created what Gaga has. And the $300M+ sitti g in her bankaccount didn't come from daddy. By your logic no artist is self made because nearly all of them had paid for vocal and music training. Replace “inherited from dad” with given millions in resources, marketing, and budget by Interscope records and a discovery budget by Def Jam before. You guys are confusing Lady Gaga the persona (which was made by Gaga) and the business of Lady Gaga which was created with millions of dollars and teams of people. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JusKeepBreathin 19,311 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 56 minutes ago, Ryusei said: Kylie is on the list so... i really wonder what their definition is lol I guess it is about taking the money you earn from your job and investing it in your own company. In that case Kylie has her make up which she owns and is where the majority of her money comes from. Gaga is paid by her bosses at the record label. "Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity." -Martin Luther King Jr. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adarsh Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 1 hour ago, LouiseVeronica said: What exactly qualifies someone as being "self made"? I mean Gaga had a LOT of help getting to where she is at, she went to a private prestigious performing arts school and took vocal lessons from Christina Aguelera's vocal coach by the time she was 11 years old thanks to coming from her wealthy family. She then had an entire team of artists help create the "gaga" persona that made her famous. She's an incredible artist, but self made? Not so sure about that. So if my parents spend their hard earned money to send me to a good college and I work harder to make them proud, I’m not self made? Lmao what a dumb statement! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LouiseVeronica 426 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 6 minutes ago, Adarsh said: So if my parents spend their hard earned money to send me to a good college and I work harder to make them proud, I’m not self made? Lmao what a dumb statement! Yea calling yourself totally self made would be wrong, your privilege and parents paved the way in a major way. I'm not saying your success (or gags for that matter) isn't something to be celebrated, just that the idea that you did it all on your own isn't honest. It makes it seem like poor people who didn't have the same chances and are struggling, like it's all their own fault and if they just worked as hard as Lady Gaga they too could become super rich. She had a MAJOR step ahead of them from day one. Kylie is NOT a self made billionare. She is lucky she was born into a rich family and her sister had a sex tape. It's amazing what she has done with the opportunities, but she didn't do it herself. Same with Gaga, she went to the same school as Paris Hilton you don't think she had a lot of opportunities most people never will? Now you wanna see a self made artist look at Madame X, poor family, ran away from home, did it herself from the ground up as an absolute NOBODY. THAT is self made. Rich kids staying rich ain't it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thNote 1,390 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 24 minutes ago, mauvais said: I said, "Self made basically means "didn't inherit their networth from daddy."" Did she inherit her networth from her father? No. Stop acting foolish. I am not the one to come for like this. You're screaming at the clouds and punching yourself in the face, sir. But yeah. It is what you're implying. And at least I am in the clouds. Where are you? In Delusion Land. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The13thNote 1,390 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 10 minutes ago, LouiseVeronica said: Yea calling yourself totally self made would be wrong, your privilege and parents paved the way in a major way. I'm not saying your success (or gags for that matter) isn't something to be celebrated, just that the idea that you did it all on your own isn't honest. It makes it seem like poor people who didn't have the same chances and are struggling, like it's all their own fault and if they just worked as hard as Lady Gaga they too could become super rich. She had a MAJOR step ahead of them from day one. Kylie is NOT a self made billionare. She is lucky she was born into a rich family and her sister had a sex tape. It's amazing what she has done with the opportunities, but she didn't do it herself. Same with Gaga, she went to the same school as Paris Hilton you don't think she had a lot of opportunities most people never will? Now you wanna see a self made artist look at Madame X, poor family, ran away from home, did it herself from the ground up as an absolute NOBODY. THAT is self made. Rich kids staying rich ain't it By your standards Madonna isnt self made. Her dad had enough money to own a large ranch and support 9 kids by himself. And Madonna had dance lessons paid for her since she was a kid. And she was a popular pretty white kid in the suburbs. Yah she ate dirt for a few years in NYC but so did Gaga. They both lived in shitty apartments on **** diets galavanting with broke club kids after their father's rejected their crazy styles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mauvais 0 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 7 minutes ago, JusKeepBreathin said: I guess it is about taking the money you earn from your job and investing it in your own company. In that case Kylie has her make up which she owns and is where the majority of her money comes from. Gaga is paid by her bosses at the record label. That's not really how the music industry works. It's a common misconception but recording artists are not employees like you or I might be an employee of a company. It would be way too risky to not incorporate yourself as a touring musician (also probably impossible). All her royalties, touring revenues, etc are paid to her own businesses Mermaid Touring Inc., House of Gaga Publishing, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maleficent 6 Posted June 4, 2019 Share Posted June 4, 2019 lots of forbes threads again and i’ll keep reminding yall that forbes only publishes the net worth’s of people who send their financial reports and details to them. Gaga doesn’t. neither does Madonna or Mariah. That’s why they are not on these lists (or aren’t listed as high as they should be) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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