Economy 53,076 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/trump-to-impose-tariff-of-up-to-25-on-mexico-over-migrant-surge-1.1266566 Trump now says the tarrifs on Mexico will gradually rise until they reach 25% by October first and only removed once Mexico finds a way to stop sending illegals thru Meanwhile officials are concerned that this will not only out the USMCA deal at risk of not getting officially signed... But also that the US is already in a harsh trade war with China and doesn't need to get into another one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,076 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 I don't think this is even truly about illegal immigrants just like the steel tarrifs on Canada weren't truly about National Security Trump genuinely believes tarrifs are good for the US economy so he will keep coming up with excuses to put tarrifs on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FATCAT 60,909 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 3 minutes ago, Economy said: I don't think this is even truly about illegal immigrants just like the steel tarrifs on Canada weren't truly about National Security Trump genuinely believes tarrifs are good for the US economy so he will keep coming up with excuses to put tarrifs on He's just dumb. He thinks that countries pay these tariffs because he's degraded so far mentally that he can't understand how American wallets & lively-hoods will suffer from it. We're just toys in his sandbox. This kitten over here (meow) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,076 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 22 minutes ago, FATCAT said: He's just dumb. He thinks that countries pay these tariffs because he's degraded so far mentally that he can't understand how American wallets & lively-hoods will suffer from it. We're just toys in his sandbox. He's also stuck in the past. Trade has become a much more complex web in this global economy than when he was young It's no longer just putting tarrifs on an import and so your at home products become more competitive and imports fall because #1. With such a complex chain system, parts and resources for each manufactured product comes from many different countries. You could put tarrifs on a car and reduce its imports but if you sell parts to that country to make the car u just lost exports as well #2 countries have become more specialized in selling in bulk what they are most competitive in. That means each country does not have enough of many industries to produce for themselves. A tarrifs will raise the cost of the import but it won't help local businesses that don't exist It's like putting all these tarrifs on cheap Chinese products. The US hardly produces any anymore. You can't help an industry that hardly exists anymore in the first place #3 there's usually multiple countries that sell something in bulk amounts. If you put tarrifs in one companies will just look to buy from another country. Are u supposed to put tarrifs on everyone then and take on the whole world in a trade war? Tarrifs might have helped the domestic industries as far back as the 1950s but it no longer works that way in the highly globalized 21st century economy Supply chains are too interlinked. A tarrifs on something or some country ends up desrupting and affecting entire related supply chains in an unexpected way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
davflz 3,293 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Is he insane that's only going to hurt every country involved and make life for the poor in America even harder. how the f*ck is the government supposed to stop immigration? Does he literally think the Mexican government is sending people over the border intentionally by themselves? People are leaving the country on their own because they can't earn money you idiot If you actually wanted to stop illegal immigration, wouldn't you consider maybe improving the ridiculous immigration system or help Mexico build a stronger economy so its citizens wouldn't feel the need to leave their country in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 53,076 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 minutes ago, davflz said: Is he insane that's only going to hurt every country involved and make life for the poor in America even harder. how the f*ck is the government supposed to stop immigration? Does he literally think the Mexican government is sending people over the border intentionally by themselves? People are leaving the country on their own because they can't earn money you idiot If you actually wanted to stop illegal immigration, wouldn't you consider maybe improving the ridiculous immigration system or help Mexico build a stronger economy so its citizens wouldn't feel the need to leave their country in the first place? I was thinking the same thing. U can only do so much to stop outflow of population Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 29 minutes ago, FATCAT said: He's just dumb. He thinks that countries pay these tariffs because he's degraded so far mentally that he can't understand how American wallets & lively-hoods will suffer from it. We're just toys in his sandbox. I received pushback for saying exactly what you said in the other tariff thread and I still don't understand why since they’re the facts And then those same people ended up agreeing with me Anything for cheap likes I guess Anyways yes Trump does not understand much of anything, especially economics. These tariffs and the inevitable Chinese tariffs will continue to not only hurt our economy but put American companies out of business. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marilyn MonHoe 11,011 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 35 minutes ago, davflz said: Is he insane that's only going to hurt every country involved and make life for the poor in America even harder. how the f*ck is the government supposed to stop immigration? Does he literally think the Mexican government is sending people over the border intentionally by themselves? People are leaving the country on their own because they can't earn money you idiot If you actually wanted to stop illegal immigration, wouldn't you consider maybe improving the ridiculous immigration system or help Mexico build a stronger economy so its citizens wouldn't feel the need to leave their country in the first place? Yes that is exactly what he thinks: "When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending the best. They're sending people that have lots of problems and they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime. They're rapists and some, I assume, are good people, but I speak to border guards and they're telling us what we're getting." Republicans don’t care about immigration. They had 2 years of having the House, the Senate and the presidency and did nothing to help reform our immigration system. In reality they are making it harder for immigrants to become legal citizens because they don’t want immigrants.... they hate them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdmistTheLight 2,269 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 1 hour ago, Economy said: But also that the US is already in a harsh trade war with China and doesn't need to get into another one Ugh, a lot of people in my country and many in south east asia hail Trump for his trade war against China ( Android revoked their OS from Huawei to be exact) just because of their personal hatred for the country. It pissed me off so much when they praise him knowing nothing about his policies Liberaté mi amor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Economy 53,076 Posted May 31, 2019 Author Share Posted May 31, 2019 37 minutes ago, AdmistTheLight said: Ugh, a lot of people in my country and many in south east asia hail Trump for his trade war against China ( Android revoked their OS from Huawei to be exact) just because of their personal hatred for the country. It pissed me off so much when they praise him knowing nothing about his policies I use Huwawei and it's like my personal affordable phone Even tho I live in Canada I felt personally attacked If im forced to move to Apple or Samsung and pay double the price because if this... Nnnnnnnnnnnn Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeleteMyAccount 11,881 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Americans love Tariff Trump... Just look at this declining approval ratings. You'd think his admin would take note considering they're the best of the best... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reginald 13,841 Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 Jesus Christ, more tariffs??? This is outrageous- ever since this Trump trade war with China started, I've seen a huge price jump on even basic everyday items that I'm used to buying for cheap. This is directly affecting my day to day finances in a very negative way , and the American versions of the items (when they're in stock, which is not often) are way outside my budget if I replace everything I need with American products Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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