Sassy McSass 814 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Loved it. I think the point is not even that itâs a question men get asked less but that it should be a topic of conversation at all with that justification alone âyouâre 30 nowâ. Not everyone âs goal in life is to have kids and that shouldnât dictate whether you have a happy life or not. (Rant over ). Iâll keep looking for Wonderland Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadioIsOurs 13,691 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I would have asked her that question too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentyGa 14,340 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Good for ha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoFameMonster 1,592 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 remember when Gaga was asked that all the time and she said she would be the biggest in her 30s and your music career doesnt end because you turn 30. She said she will roar into her 30s and well look what she has done!!!!  but its pretty much media and the music industry's way of forcing out women when they turn 30.  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 13 hours ago, Economy said: No offense but that's petty  This isn't about "double standards" in this case  Men can reproduce up to 30 to 40 years older than women. Age is almost a non-factor  For women that is not the case... The window closes much sooner  I think society is getting too sensitive with everything and Taylor Swift is incredibly sensitive herself But why ask it in the first place? Why is it anyone's concern whether she wants kids now or ever  yeah she's a public figure but there's a lot more you can talk/ask about that doesn't err on the side of "so are going to have kids cause your biological clock is almost up" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 44,058 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 Just now, Alexander Levi said: But why ask it in the first place? Why is it anyone's concern whether she wants kids now or ever  yeah she's a public figure but there's a lot more you can talk/ask about that doesn't err on the side of "so are going to have kids cause your biological clock is almost up" Well I can see why some ppl might not like the personal question sure  But one of the main reasons she blew up was cuz of the double standard that women get asked this more than men tho  Im saying there's a lot of social constructs in society because if genders but in this case it makes sense  A healthy male can reproduce until his 70s or 80s  Many women by 40 need medical treatments to reproduce... So in this case I think the difference makes sense to ask women more when they get to that age  It's not discrimination to think that way. It's a biological reality that women are more time constrained to have children than men so they have to decide by a certain age if they wanna have kids of their own (unless they adopt) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC 25,164 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 15 hours ago, 053Timo said: Ugh, that question will be asked to men. Plus itâs different for men, they are fertile their whole life. Women on the other hand... Good point Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordEnigma 11,313 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Economy said: Well I can see why some ppl might not like the personal question sure  But one of the main reasons she blew up was cuz of the double standard that women get asked this more than men tho  Im saying there's a lot of social constructs in society because if genders but in this case it makes sense  A healthy male can reproduce until his 70s or 80s  Many women by 40 need medical treatments to reproduce... So in this case I think the difference makes sense to ask women more when they get to that age  It's not discrimination to think that way. It's a biological reality that women are more time constrained to have children than men so they have to decide by a certain age if they wanna have kids of their own (unless they adopt) Ok but there's no need to ask that question in the first place  if I were to interview a superstar like Taylor Swift - that would be the last thing on my mind. We also live in 2019 where you don't have to give birth to have a child of your own. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrawberryBlond 13,303 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 I think Taylor's been on a feminist kick lately and is ready to strike at anyone who she deems to be using double standards but a lot of the stuff she calls out is actually more universal than she might think. The settling down question is very common among men when they hit 30 as well, especially depending on their class, economic status and what kinda family they grew up with. Before he got married, everyone was asking if Prince Harry would ever get married and have kids as he seemed to be leaving all that later than his brother did. There's more pressure on royalty to produce heirs. I even saw a reality star in his 30's who came from a very traditional background get pestered by his family for when he and his new wife were going to start having kids. While men can reproduce all their lives, finding a fertile woman is only possible for so long if he wants to stay within his age bracket, so if that's his aim, naturally, he'll be asked when he's planning on kids. It's undeniable that the fertility window for women is much shorter and Taylor has shown her desire for marriage and even kids throughout her songs, so it's not beyond the bounds of acceptability to ask what her take is on this. She's currently in her longest relationship and she's about to be 30 so it makes sense that now's the time to start asking this question. If they asked her this back when she was 21 and dating guys for 3 months at a time, yeah, that would be more sexist but it's one of the most natural questions in the world right now especially seeing as we know next to nothing about their very private relationship. I don't see why such a question is so personal. It's just a general question about life and future plans. 14 hours ago, Supersonic said: I'm not saying this is a "women only" thing. Men don't get it asked as frequently, also they're not getting pestered on social media about it like women do. There's no tabloid articles about Bruno Mars maybe having a baby, meanwhile Gaga being "pregant" makes national news and goes through the tabloids for weeks. Every little weight gain a woman in the public eye experiences is automatically attributed to pregnancy. And a woman in the public eye having a baby is even much more of an event. Like... it's quite obvious that this is a huge, weird thing society does to women. That's because men can't get pregnant. If they did, we'd make the same speculation of them. It's a not a "huge weird thing society does to women," it's the expectation reaction for the subsequent bodily function. Obviously, if a woman's body does something a man's cannot, that's an extra something to talk about. There's no way of telling if a man impregnated a woman a few months ago just by looking at his body but you can tell if a woman has been impregnated a few months ago by looking at her body. Different situations mean different treatment. The treatment of women while pregnant and what's expected of them afterwards can be sexist but mere pregnancy speculation? I don't think so. 14 hours ago, Supersonic said: And I think you're not taking this seriously enough and your insistence on discrediting a woman's opinion over what is sexist is not good. Â I'm a woman and I don't think it's sexist. Not saying I'm right and all these other women are wrong but I just think that just because a few women say something doesn't mean we all think that way. I'm a proud feminist but some women really need to stop being so oversensitive and focus on bigger issues that profoundly affect us. Yes, the little things matter too but "someone asked me when I was thinking of marriage and kids" is way down on my list of offensive questions to the point where it isn't even on there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 44,058 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 27 minutes ago, Alexander Levi said: Ok but there's no need to ask that question in the first place  if I were to interview a superstar like Taylor Swift - that would be the last thing on my mind. We also live in 2019 where you don't have to give birth to have a child of your own. I agree but ur missing my point. Im talking about the reason she got upset about it  She didn't say she wouldn't answer because it's a personal question  She specifically mentioned gender as the reason and im saying in this case when it comes to having children women have this time limit men just don't have. The worst men typically get as they age is erectile dysfunction and a simple Viagra pills usually can easily fix that.  In this case it's not a social construct or double standard for no reason like a lot of other stuff is  When couples talk about if they are gonna have children when they are approaching 40 and that it's now or never it's typically because of the woman not the men  By age 35 pregnancies are considered high risk, so if a woman is in her 30s it's a valid thought  But I agree it doesn't need to be asked by a stranger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 lmao at people thinking it's not sexist. it's sexist by definition because the presupposition behind that question is that one of the main roles that contributes to "female essence" (i.e., being a "woman") is being a mother. who the **** said that? oh, yeah, western heteronormative societal structure. well, **** that. kudos to you, tay! it's kinda funny because i'm actually rewatching her reputation tour on netflix right now. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galactastica 309 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 On 5/25/2019 at 10:40 PM, Economy said: When I get asked that I just think of it as a personal question  Personal questions are questions that aren't really ur business by nature we don't have to get so upset about it We don't have to get upset about it, and the truth is I don't...if anyone does it's generally, if not always, the person that asks me in the first place. I've literally been yelled at by a complete stranger and called selfish with finger pointing for saying we will not be having children. If it is so easily "just a question" and nothing more to get mad about, then why do people get so mad at me for politely answering with the truth? That's on them, not me, but it sure does make me hesitant to answer, and make me want to avoid being asked. Their generally negative, rude, or politely belittling reaction to my life sure does make it seem like more than a personal question that I shouldn't get upset about. Perhaps people so set in their ways need to back off and worry about their own business instead of hassling me and Ms. Swift. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 44,058 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 11 hours ago, T E A said: lmao at people thinking it's not sexist. it's sexist by definition because the presupposition behind that question is that one of the main roles that contributes to "female essence" (i.e., being a "woman") is being a mother. who the **** said that? oh, yeah, western heteronormative societal structure. well, **** that. kudos to you, tay! it's kinda funny because i'm actually rewatching her reputation tour on netflix right now. I don't think that's the reason why...  Women have a short window if when they can reproduce and by age 35 it is considered high risk pregnancy and by age 40 many women can no longer reproduce without medical intervention  It's natural women get asked that more  A man can reproduce almost until he dies Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisTEAne 21,059 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Economy said: I don't think that's the reason why...  Women have a short window if when they can reproduce and by age 35 it is considered high risk pregnancy and by age 40 many women can no longer reproduce without medical intervention  It's natural women get asked that more  A man can reproduce almost until he dies you're missing the point. the point is that they shouldn't even get asked that question in the first place. they get asked that question because societal norms dictate that it is natural that women become mothers. but it's not. the point is that nothing is natural about gender essentialism. period. if you hurt taylor swift, i'll hurt you back Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie 608 Posted May 27, 2019 Share Posted May 27, 2019 The interviewer wanted to buzz with baby informations... and miss swift just gave him the buzz by replying that. Who won ?  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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