Sid 6,755 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 14 minutes ago, MonsterMom said: Why do you feel the need to keep stating that? Great you feel that way. Some of us just like watching her perform and enjoying her talent. Welcome to GGD where everyone can have an opinion ...ıllıllı c h e r r y c h e r r y b o o m b o o m ıllıllı... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister G 10,330 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Artists don’t always sound the same as they get older. Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, etc. People can be so unfair to Gaga at times and expect her to be 100% perfect. I saw her ENIGMA show in January when Bradley Cooper was in the audience and they sang Shallow together. Her vocals were amazing all night. And who cares if she’s off key now and then. She’s having fun and smiling. Those count for something. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaLa 19,432 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 38 minutes ago, Timmers said: I've been thinking about this and I have some theories. She is one of the richest pop stars of our generation. The Vegas shows are paying $1 million per show, on top of what she already gets from everything she's done and released previously. She doesn't need the money from these private events. So theory A: she's doing these private shows to raise money for something related to the next era that Interscope won't pay for so she doesn't feel like it's coming directly out of her own pocket. Theory B: she's doing these shows for tech companies so she can ask for help in developing her own company or tech product afterwards. Yeah, great points. I think it is a lot about the relationships with the companies. We know Cynthia spoke at the SAP conference on behalf of BTWF, who knows what kinds of deals they made there. Corporate sponsorships are huge for charities. And Gaga has an existing relationship with Apple, she’s done some exclusives in the past, maybe they are lining things up for the future. Like you said she doesn’t need the money, so I think when she does these things there must be a deeper reason we might never know the details of. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MonsterMom 12,647 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Sid said: Welcome to GGD where everyone can have an opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vitleysingur 13,784 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Why are you complaining about her booking these private gigs? Years of hard work paid off so that she could get these so-called 'quick' cheques at this point of her career. It's not like she just sits there counting her coins. Dreams of you and me are in the dirt. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,328 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, Timmers said: I've been thinking about this and I have some theories. She is one of the richest pop stars of our generation. The Vegas shows are paying $1 million per show, on top of what she already gets from everything she's done and released previously. She doesn't need the money from these private events. So theory A: she's doing these private shows to raise money for something related to the next era that Interscope won't pay for so she doesn't feel like it's coming directly out of her own pocket. Theory B: she's doing these shows for tech companies so she can ask for help in developing her own company or tech product afterwards. I think the Apple one was part favor. Apple’s been good to her and in bringing enigma all she really had to do was a sound check. It was a bigger deal for them than her and she likes Apple and she had time so why not? No travel involved, very little outside prep work, performing. I get it. I could very easily see that being her mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juanjo 2,037 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Come in here and read all these comments. I guess business as usual, here at GGD. I’m sure the show was great. The key is, was the stream an cringe as SAP? Also, I certainly hope the person streaming wasn’t attacked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
GABEL 1,853 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 2 hours ago, Ziggy said: Idk if that's totally true because the jazz shows are still apparently great vocally. I can imagine it's very difficult to be changing singing technique so drastically between performances (her jazz style is *very* different from her pop), so it could really just be that she's putting more into getting J&P right rather than enigma since those songs are "easier", per se. I mean, let's think to when she had a fairly under-developed jazz style: 2011-2012ish. She could sing those songs pretty easily from pop, but in terms of style and technique she was still very much in her normal pop voice. But the two styles have grown increasingly more distinct from one another so I imagine it isn't easy to switch back readily. if you watched the jazz Vegas show you can see her voice is not as good as it was back to 2015/6 it's still insanely good but I guess she's just busy and don't have time to keep her voice in the best condition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antoni 5,332 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Zander said: I see these 2 shows as a warmup for Enigma while making money? Why does she need to warmup? There are rehearsals for that, which don't include the cost of moving all of the equipment and set pieces across to other states. 39 minutes ago, LaLa said: Yeah, great points. I think it is a lot about the relationships with the companies. We know Cynthia spoke at the SAP conference on behalf of BTWF, who knows what kinds of deals they made there. Corporate sponsorships are huge for charities. And Gaga has an existing relationship with Apple, she’s done some exclusives in the past, maybe they are lining things up for the future. Like you said she doesn’t need the money, so I think when she does these things there must be a deeper reason we might never know the details of. I didn't know that's where Cynthia spoke! I think we're definitely on to something. 23 minutes ago, Ziggy said: I think the Apple one was part favor. Apple’s been good to her and in bringing enigma all she really had to do was a sound check. It was a bigger deal for them than her and she likes Apple and she had time so why not? No travel involved, very little outside prep work, performing. I get it. I could very easily see that being her mentality. That's a great point, too. Everyone is so focused on "wow she's just doing Enigma," but if you have a deal with a company and are trying to work on future projects with them and all they ask is for you to perform, WHY NOT just do the show you've already rehearsed and performed? 1) It requires the least amount of work. 2) It makes some of audience consider going to Vegas to see the show in all of its glory. 3) It's a first live look at the pop star persona for many of these people, and she needs them to like the pop star to buy the next album. Liking the actress / red carpet celebrity isn't enough. Ya'll can hate all you want, and I'll admit I wish there was something different too, but I'm 90% sure she knows what she's doing and has a purpose behind it. My name isn't Timmers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 You guys give Gaga literally no leeway to be a human being. Voices change in day to day performances for many reasons. Somedays singing is easy, some days harder, some days a vocalist just likes to do something different. People get older and their voice shifts, or different techniques get preferred, or she feels the need to protect her voice for a reason. Sometimes she sings better than ever but GGD is good at ignoring those times and pumping up the off times. This fan base is Gaga’s worst Critic. Maybe some of you would prefer playback instead. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 11,328 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 28 minutes ago, Timmers said: Why does she need to warmup? There are rehearsals for that, which don't include the cost of moving all of the equipment and set pieces across to other states. I didn't know that's where Cynthia spoke! I think we're definitely on to something. That's a great point, too. Everyone is so focused on "wow she's just doing Enigma," but if you have a deal with a company and are trying to work on future projects with them and all they ask is for you to perform, WHY NOT just do the show you've already rehearsed and performed? 1) It requires the least amount of work. 2) It makes some of audience consider going to Vegas to see the show in all of its glory. 3) It's a first live look at the pop star persona for many of these people, and she needs them to like the pop star to buy the next album. Liking the actress / red carpet celebrity isn't enough. Ya'll can hate all you want, and I'll admit I wish there was something different too, but I'm 90% sure she knows what she's doing and has a purpose behind it. Exactly! Let’s not forget that this isn’t a festival, it’s a corporate event, essentially. It’s not designed for everyone to see it so why spend countless hours making a one of a kind performance when one such performance already exists in enigma (due to its limited availability and such). So it’s not like she brought this to Coachella, though I feel the need to remind everyone that she brought TMB to Lollapalooza so she has literally done it before and no one batted an eye. Why? Because she still gives it everything. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bojana 568 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 CEO of Disney. Didnt he attend Enigma in Las Vegas also? It seems he likes Gaga, maybe theres a role for her in the future... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Bojana said: CEO of Disney. Didnt he attend Enigma in Las Vegas also? It seems he likes Gaga, maybe theres a role for her in the future... He’s leaving the company, so... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 Apple probably paid specifically for Enigma. And her band and dancers need checks too. These shows arent just to line Gaga’s pockets, a lot of others are dependent on performing and they aren’t making anywhere near what Gaga does per show. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Married the Night 3,955 Posted May 18, 2019 Share Posted May 18, 2019 She was definitely struggling a bit at parts but it means nothing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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