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Was ARTPOP ahead of its time?


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androiduser
3 minutes ago, Vegas said:

 

You guys keep telling the album was “dated” upon release but then again people are just finding out about G.U.Y. With this tweet (6 years later) and are loving it. Check replies

it's literally one song, and just because somebody hasn't heard the song before, it doesn't make it ahead of it's time, that doesn't make any sense

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10 hours ago, Vegas said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You guys keep telling the album was “dated” upon release but then again people are just finding out about G.U.Y. With this tweet (6 years later) and are loving it. Check replies 

 

I like GUY too, but what's your point? Some random people's first impression of one song isn't relevant or somehow evidence that the album isn't dated. These are all just opinions anyway and none of us are right or wrong. It's subjective.

I like the album and overall think it has a cool sound but there is an element of the production that seems to have only been good in the year it was released. After that a few of the songs started to feel a little stale. Swine, Donatella and some others. Not all of them. GUY being one of them. So using it as an example is pointless.

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Particular songs only. 
Jewels and Drugs as you mentioned. Also, Swine as well, it's quite similar to the sound which Sophie does now and she has got a lot of positive critics' view, but, back then, GP and critics dragged Swine so much. :emma:

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8 hours ago, Vegas said:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You guys keep telling the album was “dated” upon release but then again people are just finding out about G.U.Y. With this tweet (6 years later) and are loving it. Check replies 

 

 

 

 

When Gaga introduced classic jazz songs during c2c era a lot of us including myself only first heard them. I've never heard of Bewitched bothered and bewildered before and now I have every famous version of the song in my library. And I love it. Doesn't mean the song was ahead of it's time sis. 

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12 hours ago, Inferno said:

I :applause:hate:applause:the:applause: term:applause:dated:applause:

Aura, Donatella and Mary Jane Holland were literally recycled tracks. 

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The main problem with ARTPOP (from a sonic perspective - let's not go into the nonsense concept) is and always was that it's horribly overproduced, with each track being smothered in pointless layers of sludgy noise to the detriment of songs with otherwise solid melodies. The shift pop has taken since the late noughties, early 2010s era of big, loud noisy pop has been toward more minimal, less cluttered productions. ARTPOP was therefore not ahead of the time, but behind it.

If ARTPOP were to be released now  it would fare similarly badly with critics and the GP simply because it's such an abrasive soundscape, each track (bar a few that are actually produced with clarity and relative concision) filled with so much sonic corn starch so as to become unpalatable.

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8 hours ago, Eggs said:

The main problem with ARTPOP (from a sonic perspective - let's not go into the nonsense concept) is and always was that it's horribly overproduced, with each track being smothered in pointless layers of sludgy noise to the detriment of songs with otherwise solid melodies. The shift pop has taken since the late noughties, early 2010s era of big, loud noisy pop has been toward more minimal, less cluttered productions. ARTPOP was therefore not ahead of the time, but behind it.

If ARTPOP were to be released now  it would fare similarly badly with critics and the GP simply because it's such an abrasive soundscape, each track (bar a few that are actually produced with clarity and relative concision) filled with so much sonic corn starch so as to become unpalatable.

Well said.

By the way, which songs would you include in your "bar a few that are actually produced with clarity and relative concision"?

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21 minutes ago, GrigioGirl1 said:

Well said.

By the way, which songs would you include in your "bar a few that are actually produced with clarity and relative concision"?

ARTPOP, Do What U Want (dddd) and, to a lesser extent, Applause and Swine.

Jewels n' Drugs and Dope too, actually, though they are arguably unsuccessful for other reasons.

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Joemayzin

Yasssss I think it was tbh and it’s one of my favorite albums

 

off topic but I just reinstalled a new fire stick to my tv and if you tell Alexa to “shuffle songs by lady Gaga” this bitch totally excludes this album :grr:

dafuq Amazon, what’s good?!

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Davian

It aged like fine wine for me, so yes:firega: It was fire back then, and it’s fire now:firega:

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ARTPOP was a great album overall... Just the expectations were raised very high just like with Enigma :interestinga: The app, managment issues and lack of advertising ruined everything in my opinion.

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The Fame

As someone who genuinely  enjoys a good number of songs on the album, I have to be honest and say no, I would not describe the songs as being 'ahead of their time'. 

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2 hours ago, Eggs said:

ARTPOP, Do What U Want (dddd) and, to a lesser extent, Applause and Swine.

Jewels n' Drugs and Dope too, actually, though they are arguably unsuccessful for other reasons.

Thanks.

My list was title track, DWUW, Dope (despite the harsh vocals),  Gypsy, and also to a lesser extent Applause.

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Tony31511

I’m not sure if it has been said already but I think Born This Way was very ahead if it’s time. The production, the controversial themes of religion, pretty much everything about it was forward thinking. No other pop artist will ever make songs similar to Government Hooker, Scheiße, Judas, Americano, Bloody Mary, even Born This Way, etc. The whole album was full of unique songs that sound timeless. BUT, I do think the idea/concept of ARTPOP was the most “ahead of its time” thing Gaga has ever done. I don’t know how to explain it but it was more than just an album to her. She treated it like a social movement. Unfortunately, the actual music wasn’t her best quality-wise.

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