imnotyourbabe10 6,120 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I used to wrestle with how problematic people's sexual lives can be in the age of technology and PrEp. Until I got on PrEp, I didn't know what peace of mind felt like. I know it isn't 100% effective and that other precautions need to be taken. However, for those that do not take those extra steps, I realized, who am I to judge? I do wish them well and the health of others' well, however it is a waste of my time to be caught up in assessing others' decisions -- even when there is evidence at their fingertips (cell phones/Google/etc). My Dr. told me that the rates of HIV infections are now lowered but the rates of other STI's have started to climb due to folks feeling "invincible." Honestly, it makes sense to a degree. And, as much as I've had a bone to pick with the gay male community and its hypersexualization, at least many are waking to to progressive sexual healthcare and routine check-ups in the age of reverting to the "demon haunted world" and 45's administration and anti-lgbtq sentiments. Not just trying to find silver-linings but also trying to age without being a judgmental asshole (not implying anyone on his thread is!). I'm nearly 30 and have wasted too much time/energy on assessing society and others' decisions, which are our of our control, to a degree (vote, still have philosophical convos about life, reflect, etc.). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy 14,040 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 3 hours ago, maxmore said: are you from the states? i am from germany and we practice it differently. could be a USA vs rest of the world thing Yeah in the states doctors make mention of wearing a condom due to PrEP’s relatively limited scope as a drug. Condoms can help prevent the spread of others diseases and STIs. **This is information we get told; it’s not my opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 7 hours ago, lovedillon said: Omg... there is no “according to that logic” lmfao I’m literally stating the facts about the pill, it’s your choice if you only want to use the pill & no condom. Condoms aren’t 100% effective & neither is PrEP, but if you use them together it adds a layer of protection. Nobody’s telling you you HAVE to use a condom like wtf? Lmao I can’t with you guys Are you using both ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borislshere 53,665 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, TheShameMonster said: ouf, just goes to show not everyone is good at their jobs The SCREAM I LET OUT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,667 Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 15 minutes ago, Melech said: Are you using both ? I read through the entire thread and I am confused. What is exactly wrong with using both? A condom would only add an extra layer of protection not only against HIV, but other diseases. PrEP is for HIV prevention, but there are many other things you can catch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon 10,930 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 moral of the story: don't take anything for granted kids, always play safe ... and now i just sit in silence. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uo111 5,282 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Melech said: Condoms fail 0.4 to 6.5 % of the time so it’s pretty much the same. According to that logic everyone should take Prep as well when they protect with condom. Ummm.... Yes? This has always been the recommendation. Where is the misunderstanding here? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 8 hours ago, Melech said: Are you using both ? Lmao this has nothing to do with the facts but if I were single, yes I would be using both because I know that PrEP is only 92-99% effective & doesn’t protect you completely from HIV & neither do condoms. Those are the facts & doctors, including the people who made the pill, have always stressed that you should also still be using a condom. It’s your choice if you don’t wanna use both but there is no arguing whether PrEP is 100% effective. This is literally like talking to a Trump supporter, you have the same exact logic I swear. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melech 9,900 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 1 hour ago, Morphine Prince said: I read through the entire thread and I am confused. What is exactly wrong with using both? A condom would only add an extra layer of protection not only against HIV, but other diseases. PrEP is for HIV prevention, but there are many other things you can catch. Nothing is wrong with it. I just don’t like the attitude people here have on Prep users who don’t use condoms. and of course there are other things to catch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hpmcmill 2,012 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 PrEP is important, and I’m an advocate for it... I am skeptical of the on-demand method however... which is how this guy was taking it when he got HIV. I know there have been studies, but I feel much safer just taking it everyday. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pachinko 10,754 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 12 hours ago, Melech said: Condoms also don’t give you a 100% chance to prevent an infection. I think condoms are about 96% safe (not sure about the exact number) Three things: Use a condom, PreP, Don't be a slut Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kattys 4,319 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Lmao at people telling "ok I feel safe for myself" but giving zero fcks about spreading disease to other people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEMPLE 1,358 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 "It prevents contraction of the virus in more than 99% of cases, but is not foolproof." There's your answer kids. If you don't want any diseases, don't be taking loads bare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lottie Winters 1,628 Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 11 hours ago, maxmore said: i try my hardest not to be condescending but its just so rude to not be informed on a topic, yet still believe its ok to decide whats right and whats wrong lol You are though and it sounds like you're trying to convince yourself more than anything that it's okay to not practice safe sex. If that's your thing fine, but I think it's irresponsible to encourage people to not use condoms and treat prep as ironclad cure-all solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 13 minutes ago, PenthousePssy said: You are though and it sounds like you're trying to convince yourself more than anything that it's okay to not practice safe sex. If that's your thing fine, but I think it's irresponsible to encourage people to not use condoms and treat prep as ironclad cure-all solution. lol now you're imagining things. i havent encouraged anybody to do anything, i was simply saying that things are handled differently overseas. honestly i was rather shocked how people on here were shaming this guy for a perfectly sane decision he made. just read the comments on the first and second page. thats horrible. you cannot expect everybody in this world to like condoms and shame them when they dont - im telling you, real life is not how you guys picture it to be. thankfully, we now have a very safe and reliable method to prevent hiv infection that isnt a barrier method. as an adult he made the decision to go for this method and its just downright cruel to judge him for his decision when he just received these horrible news. if he was using condoms and got infected, you guys wouldnt make all these slut shaming comments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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