Elizabeth Warren supports reparations discussions

[Morphine Prince 109,896]

 

[BuyMeEggs 48]

Reparations for descendants of slaves is very unpopular, I mean even affirmative action is controversial- no way she’s going to win on this narrative. 

[FATCAT 60,909]

She didn't say that she explicitly supported reparations, but that she wants the nation to have a dialogue on it. Black Americans are still disadvantaged by their families past, Slavery wasn't that long ago. 

[Meredith Grey 3,225]

The debate on reparations aside, she is never going to get elected. She comes off as so radicalized that most of the left will end up against her as well as the right. I honestly agree with a lot of her views but can’t take her seriously because she runs her campaigning so badly it makes me nervous how she would ever handle being president. The whole point of campaigning is to get the American public on your side to vote for you and she blatantly ignores it.

[Economy 53,073]

I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. Even tho slavery was Terrible, how can you possibly calculate how much each individual should be untitled to and what his or her damage or disadvantage from the past is?

 

There are blacks now who are already born into wealthy families just as there are whites who are born in disadvantaged conditions...

 

If reperations had been proposed right after slavery 100% I would have supported...

 

But over the last several decades each individual family has taken different paths, some families have mixed with different backgrounds and this is not calculable anymore

 

There's too many variables to really be fair about this

 

What we really should be doing is looking at how to provide more opportunities for everyone and pull people stuck in poverty out of that cycle regardless of their background. Disadvantaged people as a result of social injustice can happen to any family line or any individual regardless of background

[Jill 31,812]

Elizabeth Warren?

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Elizapreach Warright

Right?

[FATCAT 60,909]

1 minute ago, Economy said:

I'm sorry but I can't agree with this. Even tho slavery was Terrible, how can you possibly calculate how much each individual should be untitled to and what his or her damage or disadvantage from the past is?

 

There are blacks now who are already born into wealthy families just as there are whites who are born in disadvantaged conditions...

 

If repetitions had been proposed right after slavery 100% I would have supported...

 

But over the last several decades each individual family has taken different paths and this is not calculable anymore

There don't have to be financial reparations, it could come down to opportunities. For instance, federal money could be pumped into schools that struggle with funding and we could better educate descendants of slaves to help alleviate the generational issues they still struggle with. I think that's why we need to have the conversation because it's about more than just money. Some opportunities (like a good education without falling through the cracks) can be invaluable.

[thewho 928]

Bayard Rustin. 

This man is a role model not only to the African American community, but to the LGBT community as well. He stood next to MLK, but erased by homophobic history. He talks about this, how we should NOT divide if we want equal rights or provide certain privileges. The Democratic Party insists in being accepting, but treats minority groups like victims when in fact the consequences arise more from class. 

Please, I insist to read about him and bring him back to his rightfully earned place in LGBT and Black History. 

 

 

[Economy 53,073]

Just now, FATCAT said:

There don't have to be financial reparations, it could come down to opportunities. For instance, federal money could be pumped into schools that struggle with funding and we could better educate descendants of slaves to help alleviate the generational issues they still struggle with. I think that's why we need to have the conversation because it's about more than just money. Some opportunities (like a good education without falling through the cracks) can be invaluable.

Ok something like that perhaps I can support

 

I've heard ppl before suggest outright financial handouts to blacks and I think if we went that route it would have to have been done within a reasonable timeframe after slavery

 

As I said, not all individuals who are born black are disadvantaged anymore... Many are not pure bred (a lot of racial mixing now a days). Each family lines path since slavery is unique

 

So financial reperations would not be calculable.

 

I think we should focus more on getting as many ppl out of poverty as possible who are in disadvantaged situations and create opportunities for everyone regardless of race

 

Ppl of all backgrounds have unique unfair disadvantages that has held them back

[Chantelleb 75]

11 minutes ago, FATCAT said:

There don't have to be financial reparations, it could come down to opportunities. For instance, federal money could be pumped into schools that struggle with funding and we could better educate descendants of slaves to help alleviate the generational issues they still struggle with. I think that's why we need to have the conversation because it's about more than just money. Some opportunities (like a good education without falling through the cracks) can be invaluable.

100% agree with you it's not all about money , it's about the opportunities that could be offered to those who don't get that option already which still could be because of the color of their skin which isn't right. And this method isn't unheard of for Canada the aboriginal native Indians they have a similar situation and they dont pay taxes but it doesn't make it right for all the pain and suffering that was caused.

[LilMonst3r 5,688]

Umm, I'm all for people being woke and people of color getting more opportunities in society. This reparations this just seems like a stretch. Like why give reparations to the ancestors of slaves as a person of color I wonder if Puerto Ricans will be getting reparations for all the hardships they had to endure under American government. I could agree with people who were alive around segregation times to be given money for any hardships that society made them go through around intense that time period. More jobs, better education, better housing conditions, healthcare for all and Opportunites to get out of the poverty line for people of color will be good reparations for the generations of today.

 

Elizabeth is really striving for the vote in my community by the wording she is choosing to bring light to her ideas. 

[FATCAT 60,909]

3 minutes ago, Economy said:

Ok something like that perhaps I can support

I've heard ppl before suggest outright financial handouts to blacks and I think if we went that route it would have to have been done within a reasonable timeframe after slavery

As I said, not all individuals who are born black are disadvantaged anymore... Many are not pure bred (a lot of racial mixing now a days). Each family lines path since slavery is unique

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I see where you're coming from on that point, but race whether someone is full African-ancestry or not is not really the issue that reparations hope to fix. It's the financial burden that skin color has generationally bestowed upon descendants of slaves. For instance, colleges were very very rare for black Americans until the 1950s & children of parents that don't have higher education will be more likely not to get a higher education even if they could do the work. Cost is especially an issue. Mixed families face these same issues.

 

Also just as a side issue to warn you, using any term about breeding can come off as incredibly racist. I don't think you intended to use it in that way, but just as a heads up.

[Economy 53,073]

Just now, myluis617 said:

Umm, I'm all for people being woke and people of color getting more opportunities in society. This reparations this just seems like a stretch. Like why give reparations to the ancestors of slaves as a person of color I wonder if Puerto Ricans will be getting reparations for all the hardships they had to endure under American government. I could agree with people who were alive around segregation times to be given money for any hardships that society made them go through around intense that time period. More jobs, better education, better housing conditions, healthcare for all and Opportunites to get out of the poverty line for people of color will be good reparations for the generations of today.

This is why I think if financial reperations were to be done it would have to be done to the ppl that actually endured this not the current generation that wasn't even alive then

 

As I said, each black families situation is unique. Some are still stuck in the cycle of poverty while some have pulled themselves out of it. Some people are not even pure black anymore because of mixing

 

So how could we possibly calculate how much each person should be entitled to?

 

So it makes more sense to just focus on getting opportunities to everyone and try to get as many disadvantaged people out of poverty in general regardless of race

[Economy 53,073]

1 minute ago, FATCAT said:

I see where you're coming from on that point, but race whether someone is full African-ancestry or not is not really the issue that reparations hope to fix. It's the financial burden that skin color has generationally bestowed upon descendants of slaves. For instance, colleges were very very rare for black Americans until the 1950s & children of parents that don't have higher education will be more likely not to get a higher education even if they could do the work. Cost is especially an issue. Mixed families face these same issues.

 

Also just as a side issue to warn you, using any term about breeding can come off as incredibly racist. I don't think you intended to use it in that way, but just as a heads up.

I know that issue exists... But what I'm saying not every black individual is in that situation.... On the other hand u can have non blacks that struggle to go to school for other social or economic problems

 

That's why I think trying to get ppl out of poverty in general and focusing on providing more opportunities for disadvantaged people in general is a better way to go about it

 

Because that way it WILL include disadvantaged blacks anyway but also include other disadvantaged ones for other circumstances too

 

If we really wanna move beyond racism than we shouldn't even be segregating targeted economic help by race... We should make it generic for everyone

 

If we create a national plan to help disadvantaged ones, no worries because it will include black people anyway. But it shouldn't be about that race or this race

 

That's how I view it.

 

Unfair things that hold ppl back in society can happen to ppl of any race for different circumstances. Are we gonna repay them too?

 

That's why I think reperations for a specific group is the wrong way to go about it. Make it a national thing

 

If ur in an impoverished group of ppl let's send the help and leave race out of it. That's how I see it

[LilMonst3r 5,688]

10 hours ago, Marionette said:

Bayard Rustin. 

This man is a role model not only to the African American community, but to the LGBT community as well. He stood next to MLK, but erased by homophobic history. He talks about this, how we should NOT divide if we want equal rights or provide certain privileges. The Democratic Party insists in being accepting, but treats minority groups like victims when in fact the consequences arise more from class. 

Please, I insist to read about him and bring him back to his rightfully earned place in LGBT and Black History. 

 

 

I once had an argument with my classmates where they asked if MLK would have supported gay rights and the majority of people decided to say that he would. I, on the other hand, said no because I knew that King was a preacher and even though he was fighting for civil rights for people of color he still would be plagued by the homophobia that is hardwired into a lot of religious communities. This video I feel is proof of my point, this man who helped launch King's movement had to take a step back because people around him were not willing to include him and his rights in the conversation. They decided to not embrace him and his community instead they left him out of the conversation of human rights. If I'm wrong and other people have sources that contradict my thinking please reply with reliable sources for me to read.

The video states that King did not have a problem with him being gay because basically, he had something to gain out of him. When the movement really took off that's when he had to take the back seat because he was gay. If you really think about it having a gay man at King's side would have contradicted what people are taught about homosexuality through religious leaders.