corvus albus 38,031 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, Doncho said: Well I have to disagree with this. I think its all about having the right song and sound. I dont think her success is thanks to her "fans". She just needs a great song that radio will play, and Im sure she will get it soon. Lets wish her good luck That's also true. Because Katy is more commercial she can have an easy radio hit but Gaga will always have us to fall back on. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luna Lovegood 24,412 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, corvus albus said: I don't think that You can put Gaga's and Katy's career path near each other. Gaga is a force of personality, unlike Katy who was always more commercial and synthetic. Katy can't come back that easily from two failed albums because her fandom falls apart more and more. Gaga has us but Katy loses fans every day. She really needs that second album with at least one hit bigger that CCTR. Her momentum runs out and her manager knows that very well, which is why that Zedd collab exists in the first place. Let's hope, now that pop music seems to resurge, that Katy releases something like Firework again to save her crumbling career. She is far from over but we should not overestimate her. She should move more in a Maroon 5 direction if she wants more hits or she can retire mostly and put out a project every 4-5 years for her fans. She has to decide now what's more important for her: music or the bling Reveal hidden contents tiny bits of shade sprinkled throughout the text Sorry to burst bubbles but didn’t Gaga loses fans too especially during ARTPOP era and when she her final single G.U.Y ?I became a fan of hers 100% in 2015 so I didn’t experience the G.U.Y mess I don’t think I could handle it too with the constant of calling her a flop and her album is infamously album called ArtFlop. I also heard some of them joined other fandoms such as Arianators and Swifties. This was back in 2014. luna’s advocate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 1 minute ago, River Phoenix said: I don’t think I could handle it too with the constant of calling her a flop and her album is infamously album called ArtFlop. We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGMonster95 13,704 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 13 minutes ago, Doncho said: Yes exactly what I think! Its an underperformance compared to her previous albums but still did pretty good. It can look like a flop if you compare it to ASIB though A Star Is Born looks like Thriller in comparation to most albums today too Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoldeLorde2 8,389 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 How close is ASIB to passing Reputation in WW sales? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
La Rosalia 9,906 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Shallow Last Week sales: 31.5k New total: 939.4k Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nattuggla 21,799 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 23 minutes ago, PerfectGUY said: how come it's not lead worthy when it's one of Gaga's best song period?? I think we are comparing to different pair of shoes here. While stating what is the best song of someone is debatable and subjective (where I won't argue since everyone has a different taste) I think a lead single is here to create interest not just for the fans but also the GP and it has to reach as many ppl as possible. Every Gaga lead single somehow clicked with the GP more and less where PI has failed to do so, hence why it is her worst performing lead single. For example in my opinion Gaga's best songs are Heavy Metal Lover and ARTPOP but I know these songs wouldn't have worked as a lead single or as a single in general. Do you understand what I mean? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 my predictions for Shallow on Billboard Hot 100: #9 Shallow (=) radio been helping alot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kat 10,022 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Shallow TOTAL AI: 78.600 (+1.937) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris2 9,239 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Shallah will never die Sad we cannot see the boost anymore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supersonic 49,376 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I don't get why you are comparing Katy Perry to Lady Gaga. Their situations are not really compareable, they've had very different motives in starting their careers, Gaga had something to say and the drive to write, make music and change the world while Katy is basically the poster child of capitalism. Gaga wanted her opinions to be heard, Katy wanted to make money and be a celebrity. And that's why Gaga has bounced back. While the commercial success is beautiful, it's not the priority. She still has things to say. Until Katy has a massive public transformation and people actually see her as an earnest, hard-working & talented woman, she's not coming back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doncho 27,241 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, River Phoenix said: Sorry to burst bubbles but didn’t Gaga loses fans too especially during ARTPOP era and when she her final single G.U.Y ?I became a fan of hers 100% in 2015 so I didn’t experience the G.U.Y mess I don’t think I could handle it too with the constant of calling her a flop and her album is infamously album called ArtFlop. I also heard some of them joined other fandoms such as Arianators and Swifties. This was back in 2014. She lost fans in C2C and Joanne, not on ARTPOP. Most fans loved it and its singles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doncho 27,241 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 5 minutes ago, Supersonic said: I don't get why you are comparing Katy Perry to Lady Gaga. Their situations are not really compareable, they've had very different motives in starting their careers, Gaga had something to say and the drive to write, make music and change the world while Katy is basically the poster child of capitalism. Gaga wanted her opinions to be heard, Katy wanted to make money and be a celebrity. And that's why Gaga has bounced back. While the commercial success is beautiful, it's not the priority. She still has things to say. Until Katy has a massive public transformation and people actually see her as an earnest, hard-working & talented woman, she's not coming back. Yes I get what you say. Im just comparing how everyone hates on her with just 1 "flop" album. Reminds me of how Gaga was "over" with ARTPOP Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCureinMalibu 45,913 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 Shallow has the potential of becoming Gaga 3rd biggest hit in the US. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 49,879 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 27 minutes ago, River Phoenix said: Sorry to burst bubbles but didn’t Gaga loses fans too especially during ARTPOP era and when she her final single G.U.Y ?I became a fan of hers 100% in 2015 so I didn’t experience the G.U.Y mess I don’t think I could handle it too with the constant of calling her a flop and her album is infamously album called ArtFlop. I also heard some of them joined other fandoms such as Arianators and Swifties. This was back in 2014. Every artist looses some fans during lower commercial success including Gaga But Katy has less hardcore fans than Gaga and I think she lost more this last era than Gaga lost during ARTPOP The issue with being too reliant on the GP and casual fans is that although u may get more general popularity... Ur supporters are also less reliable and once u flop it's harder to have a come back I'm not saying Katy can't have a comeback tho if she plays her cards right Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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