SpaceAce 1,058 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 To the people in this thread who watched the documentary and still don’t understand why Wade Ronson and James Safechuck’s accusations were inconsistent: please find a heart. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schizophonic 7,015 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 7 hours ago, whipopotamus said: Well we’ll probably never hear Sire anyway but she will prob still wear his clothes so her opinion on things like that has been very prominently always been "belive the victims and survivers" and dont dare to make them even suffer more by not beliving. i dont think that this is very much different here. at least she will not public state anything that doubts on them telling the truth and by her history of that issue and her failing in trusting the wrong predators twice - she will never wear his clothes in public unless there is a 100% proof and there wont be. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yxcvbnm 839 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Burn that clothes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 hours ago, SpaceAce said: To the people in this thread who watched the documentary and still don’t understand why Wade Ronson and James Safechuck’s accusations were inconsistent: please find a heart. Thanks. Taj and other members of the jackson family called out parts of the documentary that were inconsistent or where stuff was being BLATANTLY fabricated.Now in the new UK version they edited those exact parts out......not weird at all am I right.They were inconsistent/making up **** and are now trying to save face by editing stuff and shortening the documentary. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpaceAce 1,058 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, HangWang said: Taj and other members of the jackson family called out parts of the documentary that were inconsistent or where stuff was being BLATANTLY fabricated.Now in the new UK version they edited those exact parts out......not weird at all am I right.They were inconsistent/making up **** and are now trying to save face by editing stuff and shortening the documentary. I'm not even going to bother with this. What a joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 6 hours ago, HangWang said: Taj and other members of the jackson family called out parts of the documentary that were inconsistent or where stuff was being BLATANTLY fabricated.Now in the new UK version they edited those exact parts out......not weird at all am I right.They were inconsistent/making up **** and are now trying to save face by editing stuff and shortening the documentary. New UK version? What are you talking about? I'm trying to find any receips on this but I'm not succeeding Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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geusst1235 5,398 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Didymus said: New UK version? What are you talking about? I'm trying to find any receips on this but I'm not succeeding Yep,the US version is 236 minutes while the UK version has been shaved down to about 182 minutes.It just so happens to cut a lot of the stuff people were calling out as inconsistent.If you need "receipts" literally go watch both versions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 8 hours ago, SpaceAce said: I'm not even going to bother with this. What a joke. How surprising,if you can't even attempt looking at the other side of things then there is absolutely no point in discussing this with you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 1 minute ago, HangWang said: Yep,the US version is 236 minutes while the UK version has been shaved down to about 182 minutes.It just so happens to cut a lot of the stuff people were calling out as inconsistent. "While the Channel 4 version is three hours long to leave space for adverts, the HBO release had a running time of four hours." Source Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Didymus said: "While the Channel 4 version is three hours long to leave space for adverts, the HBO release had a running time of four hours." Source Which just so happens to cut out something Taj Jackson proved to be a blatant lie on the US version and has actually been used against the documentary but okay sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Economy 50,208 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Probably. Gaga is into the whole believe the victim no matter what mentality so she probably isn't leaving any benefit of the doubt if I had to guess (but I could be wrong) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didymus 34,380 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 Just now, HangWang said: Which just so happens to cut out something Taj Jackson proved to be a blatant lie on the US version and has been used against the documentary but okay sure. They cut an hour worth of footage Clearly that part getting cut was just a coincidence since it wasn't even an important part of the film anyway. I mean, the US and UK version aired 3 days apart It would be technically impossible to quickly re-edit the UK re-edit of the film based solely on Taj's accusation. Btw, where is Taj proving that? I can only find one source for it and it was published today, 5 days after the UK version aired Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AgusPop 4,162 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 I love classical music and Richard Wagner was very anti-Semitic (i'm jewish) but I really enjoy his masterpieces. We have to learn to separate the Art from the people. Plus a biased documentary is not a court Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
geusst1235 5,398 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, Didymus said: They cut an hour worth of footage Clearly that part getting cut was just a coincidence since it wasn't even an important part of the film anyway. I mean, the US and UK version aired 3 days apart It would be technically impossible to quickly re-edit the UK re-edit of the film based solely on Taj's accusation. Btw, where is Taj proving that? I can only find one source for it and it was published today, 5 days after the UK version aired During the segment in which Wade talks about Michael leaving the kids and going upstairs with white wine or something like that getting wasted.Wade claims this is what made him want to testify,but yet Taj (who was actually at the dinner) said that the dinner happened AFTER Wade testified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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