Did Olivia give the middle finger at the Oscars?

[crybrowz 3,313]

Teas

[South Blonde 6,230]

46 minutes ago, StrawberryBlond said:

I don't really remember that, I'll have to go and look back. A bit different from a person actively giving you a signal to stop, though.

 I don't like how rudeness is called "down to earth" now. There's nothing likeable about being uncouth at such a high class event. I think "down to earth" is easily mistaken for "common." And all too often, Brits are led to believe that this is why now, speaking all "why aye man" or "cor blimey guv'nor" and "I didn't think little old me from the middle of nowhere could ever achieve this" and accidentally swearing because they're so overcome. I find it the opposite of charming, it's overdone, cringey and above all, fake humility. The ones who are the worst for doing it are always the ones who have won everything. Don't tell me they weren't expecting another trophy and haven't planned a single thing to say. It's all a ploy to make them lovable in the eyes of the public.

Not really, both things mean that you have to wrap up  

Anyway, I understand where you're coming from but you sound too biased... maybe because you're british yourself. Ok, she's trying to be likeable and everything, but I really found the speech funny, lighthearted and enjoyable. Is she really this down to earth? Was she acting? I don't know and honestly I don't care 

[Dominic 11,922]

4 minutes ago, South Blonde said:

Not really, both things mean that you have to wrap up  

Anyway, I understand where you're coming from but you sound too biased... maybe because you're british yourself. Ok, she's trying to be likeable and everything, but I really found the speech funny, lighthearted and enjoyable. Is she really this down to earth? Was she acting? I don't know and honestly I don't care 

I agree. I'm English but I love the British charm she has here. People find it a lot more endearing than a staged speech. I l love that nervous, awkward waffling she does - true emotional authenticity. The speech was a highlight tbh, it shows how shocked and emotional she was. 

[zakariah 11,722]

omg I didn't even notice, & I guess the academy didn't as well, seeing as though they didn't censor it or cut it out from the clips ABC posted lmao

[StrawberryBlond 14,904]

17 hours ago, Amphetamine said:

Teas

This is the first I've seen of that. Is that photoshopped? If not, why was she doing it?

16 hours ago, South Blonde said:

Not really, both things mean that you have to wrap up  

Anyway, I understand where you're coming from but you sound too biased... maybe because you're british yourself. Ok, she's trying to be likeable and everything, but I really found the speech funny, lighthearted and enjoyable. Is she really this down to earth? Was she acting? I don't know and honestly I don't care 

Well, I suppose I don't know what the Oscar signal is, I assume it was someone making a physical sign, which to me, screams urgency a bit more than a gentle piano.

Haha, maybe it's more because I'm Scottish specifically and we can be a bit biased against the English! I jest, of course! My family and I were pretty much cringing throughout, thought she went on too long and was scrambling for stuff to say when she clearly had said it all. Maybe to any non-Brits, it's a bit different to a standard American acceptance speech, but I think I prefer a more classy, graceful approach to it.

16 hours ago, Dominic said:

I agree. I'm English but I love the British charm she has here. People find it a lot more endearing than a staged speech. I l love that nervous, awkward waffling she does - true emotional authenticity. The speech was a highlight tbh, it shows how shocked and emotional she was. 

Didn't you not find some of the stuff she said to be cliche, though? Mentioning her kids might be watching, saying she used to work as a cleaner and had always dreamed of this and hoped this would be inspiration to any little girl watching was really hard to take as authentic when its all been done before. I find it hard to believe that she didn't plan a speech. She'd won the most out of all the women there, making her more likely than any of them to win, so I daresay perhaps her waffling on was planned, so I doubt the authenticity. I think not planning a speech when, from a numbers standpoint, you're a frontrunner, is way faker than crying, which Gaga has been accused of.

16 hours ago, Aquarius said:

omg I didn't even notice, & I guess the academy didn't as well, seeing as though they didn't censor it or cut it out from the clips ABC posted lmao

I'm wondering why they didn't censor it too. It's so clear it's a middle finger when you go looking for it. I thought America was really strict about this kinda stuff, even when it's ambiguous, so how they've let it slide is beyond me.

[Karl 3,427]

19 hours ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Yeah, it was totally quick and subtle but it was there. She didn't strongly clench her finger, nor did she turn her wrist all the way up, so it's not obvious unless you're actually looking for it. But she did it and the academy will not be pleased about it. I'm a big believer in grace and manners at award ceremonies, never speaking too long and doing as directed. Not only did Olivia rudely respond on two counts (don't forget that raspberry) to being told to wrap it up but she kept on going for another 40 seconds or so with all her humming and hawing instead of swiftly exiting. It's so entitled. Gaga would've never. Olivia had already won a ton of awards for this role, more than any other of her nominees, yet she still felt she was due an overlong acceptance speech. Surely after winning another major award for the same role, it must all get a bit blase? Adele was the same when she was cut off at the BRITS, though she was far more upfront about a middle finger. It's not like these women are some ingenue who has only just cracked the big time and this is the first ever big award they've won, so what's with the need to hog the limelight and get cross when you don't get it? I really wish British celebrities would stop doing things like swearing and giving middle fingers at the most inappropriate times - it makes us look really uncouth and unbecoming as a nation when this is what we do when put on a grand stage.

Mate she used to be a cleaner and now she's won an Oscar, she's gonna be overwhelmed and stuff.. let her be herself and stop being so judgemental like you're the new Mary Whitehouse 😂

[Wixson 5,004]

18 hours ago, South Blonde said:

I want to believe she was just too thrilled, maybe I'm naive...

You're not naive, he/she's pressed as hell, for whatever reason.

Chill

[Jonathanholland 5,348]

Why are people always so oversensitive? This is such an innocent thing. She's just completely overwhelmed since everyone thought Glenn would take it. A middle finger isn't a big crime or something   

Here in the Netherlands people are allowed to do and say almost everything on tv without people complaining about it and I rather have it that way   

[South Blonde 6,230]

1 hour ago, StrawberryBlond said:

Well, I suppose I don't know what the Oscar signal is, I assume it was someone making a physical sign, which to me, screams urgency a bit more than a gentle piano.

 

I believe it was just a sign on a screen like at the Golden Globes. I may be wrong tho...