Emvee 8,825 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Morphine Prince said: Which they are doing. You can still call a dictator a dictator. The US supports 70% of the worlds dictatorships. Atrocities around the world keep happening and you can hear a pin drop. How is this any different? There is a narrative that the military industrial complex is pushing. Enough is enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Morphine Prince said: You do realize you can acknowledge a dictator and then explain why international intervention is not the answer? You do realize you can also choose not be selectively outraged over semantics? You nor I fully understand the situation in Venezuela or its best solution. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Postboy said: The US supports 70% of the worlds dictatorships. Atrocities around the world keep happening and you can hear a pin drop. How is this any different? There is a narrative that the military industrial complex is pushing. Enough is enough. He is a presidential candidate. His failure of calling Maduro a dictator will come back to haunt him next year. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Matangi said: You do realize you can also choose not be selectively outraged over semantics? You nor I fully understand the situation in Venezuela or its best solution. You don’t have to “fully understand” anything to know Maduro is a murderous dictator. The suffering of the Venezuelan people at the hands of Maduro should not be taken lightly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emvee 8,825 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: He is a presidential candidate. His failure of calling Maduro a dictator will come back to haunt him next year. Nah. The pros far outweigh the cons. I couldn’t care less if Bernie calls Maduro, or Putin, or the prince of Saudi Arabia a dictator. My priority is the policies that effect me and the rest of Americans and no republican or neoliberal is going to satisfy that need. The only people who are making this an outrage are the establishment media, who believe this is sacrilege within their bubble, and people who have some grudge against Bernie and or the progressive movement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Postboy said: Nah. The pros far outweigh the cons. I couldn’t care less if Bernie calls Maduro, or Putin, or the prince of Saudi Arabia a dictator. My priority is the policies that effect me and the rest of American and no republican or neoliberal is going to satisfy that need. Most of America disagrees. When Fox News plays clips of Sanders not going far enough against Maduro, he will rue his light condemnation. Public peception is very important no matter what your policies are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Morphine Prince said: You don’t have to “fully understand” anything to know Maduro is a murderous dictator. The suffering of the Venezuelan people at the hands of Maduro should not be taken lightly. You really think this conflict is about words? As if calling him a dictator will alleviate any part of the crisis? The reason he is choosing to not call him a dictator at this point in time is because calling him a one does in fact give the Republican party, the Senate and the presidency the legal wiggle room to create American military intervention. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 1 minute ago, Matangi said: You really think this conflict is about words? As if calling him a dictator will alleviate any part of the crisis? The reason he is choosing to not call him a dictator at this point in time is because calling him a one does in fact give the Republican party, the Senate and the presidency the legal wiggle room to create American military intervention. Yes, Bernie Sanders and his declaration at a town hall will immediately activate a US-led coup in Venezuela. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Morphine Prince said: Most of America disagrees. When Fox News plays clips of Sanders not going far enough against Maduro, he will rue his light condemnation. Public peception is very important no matter what your policies are. That Fox News coverage was a pathetic propaganda piece and she was really shooting for the Oscar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Matangi said: That Fox News coverage was a pathetic propaganda piece and she was really shooting for the Oscar. It was filled with false equivalencies and was intended to anger an already ignorant audience. If that is your scope of the situation then it makes sense. Idk what coverage you are referring to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matangi 3,050 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Morphine Prince said: Yes, Bernie Sanders and his declaration at a town hall will immediately activate a US-led coup in Venezuela. You're clearly missing the point, but I can see this thread wasn't made for a productive dialogue, its about selective outrage. Peace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 Just now, Matangi said: You're clearly missing the point, but I can see this thread wasn't made for a productive dialogue, its about selective outrage. Peace This thread was made to report about this. There is no agenda. I’m a Bernie supporter. Just not a blind follower. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
brizoda 4,176 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Postboy said: The point of forcing Sanders to call him a dictator is to reinforce the idea of an intervention. If Venezuelans want to change their leader, they or the region can do it themselves. I, and many other people, have had enough of the US having unlimited amount of money to be the world police, but never enough money for domestic affairs. A lot of truths Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chromatislaps 34,854 Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 He is canceled. Left or right any asshat abusing power is a dictator. Thank u, next Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Prince 109,650 Posted February 26, 2019 Author Share Posted February 26, 2019 When you label yourself a Democratic Socialist, and fail to denounce dictators how most of the American public perceives as adequate, you will lose credibility with the American populace. When you have the Mexican president who is a leftist not being tough on Maduro, there is a problem. Bernie has to prove he is different than some of these people. I don't agree with US intervention because I know the consequences, but I'm just looking out for Bernie and how the public will perceive him. This rhetoric may be adequate for the more leftist part of his base. But for many it is not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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