Study shows that European gay men increasingly vote far-right extremists

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Definitely not in Spain for the most part 

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Lol are any of us surprised? Look at some of the stuff the white European gays post

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On 2/4/2019 at 12:16 AM, Supersonic said:

It's interesting to notice that is specifically only gay men. If you look at the data of how the entire LGBT+ spectrum votes, you see that it's actually a lot more left leaning. 12% of all gay voters in Germany voted far-right, while only 2,7% of all LGBT people overall in Germany voted far-right.

Where do they even get these statistics from? How are “2,7% of all LGBT people” measured?

It’s not like every LGBT person is married and how do they know if a voter who’s single is LGBT? Really just curious 

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Not the case in Denmark. 

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I'm french and i stand behind Marine , cause our President since like 20 years are litteraly destroying my country i remember when the whole world thinked that France was one of the most powerfull rich and beautiful country , look at us now 

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On 2/4/2019 at 2:08 AM, ItsTommyBitch said:

I've had this discussion with you before, and in lieu of throwing out the "P" word and immediately being branded a radical, I'll say this... I feel like you should consider a more holistic approach when it comes to the impact of what you deem a single factor like sexuality, gender and gender identity, race, etc.

Any political attempts to make groups of people second class citizens with less rights and respect not only under the law but in the majority's purview of things makes life for all of those people harder. Not just in a sort of "you have to work a bit harder" kind of way, but also in the sense that they cannot maneuver through their own environments as successfully as others and there are literal barriers put up on certain parts of life - for no reason other than that they are LGBT, a person of color, a woman, disabled, etc. In extreme cases every potential interaction with the government and even with other citizen is clouded by these barriers. And its about perception, not reality. (Though reality hurts too lol).

Morality discussions aside, you obviously have the right to vote for your own pursuit of happiness. Maybe where u live (I know its Canada lol) voting for an economically right-wing politician doesn't mean significantly impairing your standing as a person  (or you don't care that much or something), but for many people in countries all over the world that luxury doesnt exist. It might not be as extreme as death all of the time, but just being seen as "less than" and being barred from certain spheres of society because of X unreasonable factor is wrong. Your sexuality, race, gender, etc. has nothing to do with for example whether you should be able to get a loan from a bank to get a home or a car, or be able to adopt a child, be able to live in a certain neighborhood, be able to get and hold a job wherever you are qualified and fit to do, be able to get into college, be able start a business and have it be fruitful, and be able to interact with the economy and market on a basic level. But it does, and discrimination in those kinds of things is common, even in places where it is illegal, less so in places where it is strongly enforced and has widespread public disdain.

That's why people vote for people who support them as people. People are citizens of their countries, and that gives them a lot of freedom so to speak. But they have to be seen as people to be citizens, and compromising as being seen as anything less than fully a person and thus a citizen is dangerous. It's not a "single specific social issue" to people, it's their entire potential life. Some people don't get to worry about the "other issues in life" because they quite literally can't even access those things or begin to worry about them. That's the injustice being fought.

Politicians and people on the right, especially the far-right don't just want "gay marriage" to be illegal. They don't just want "abortion" to be illegal. Those would be single issues. They don't want them to be equal citizens because of their bigoted and ignorant beliefs about them, and this means that they will ultimately support all kinds of legislation and set precedents to prevent them from having full access to the economy and to decrease their acceptance in social spheres as well. (Because social acceptance can lead to legal and economic acceptance).

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For this reason, in my experience, people of those marginalized groups who vote seemingly "against their own interests" are not read as simply ignoring a single specific political issue. They are seen as Selfish; People who *clearly* don't have the interests of either their own communities or other less fortunate communities in their minds. They are read as people who are either too stupid/ignorant to care, or people who have so much that they don't think they need to care (when in reality they should just logically, because any inaction in allowing for people to be stripped of rights or disrespected sets precedent that the government can do it to you whenever it chooses  ). Or, most sadly, they are read as people who are so damaged by society's view of their identity that they feel they must distance themselves from it... the irony being that this phenomenon is also emblematic of the problem.

I'm not saying that's my thought process, but I'm saying thats what people see it and read it as, and why.

I just want to say you have by far my favorite posts on this site  

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The Lepen's party in France wants to get gay vote by often saying that immigrants are the reason of homophobia. I guess that's why some gay men voted for her. However, her party is the only one that wants to remove gay marriage and put a civil union instead. They're not anti-gay, but they clearly are close to some homophobic politicians and that could be dangerous. Last year a poll showed that the lgbt's vote for the european election was not different than the rest of population at all. 

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On 2/3/2019 at 11:28 PM, Benji said:

I’m not sure why they included the Conservative party.  They have an anti-LGBT history but they’ve modernised over the years and they’re generally central or slightly right leaning on most subjects.

I’ve considered voting for them in the past and believe they are actually currently the most able party for the U.K.

The Conservatives moved more centre after Gordon Brown's reign, it was the most logical position to take to win voters. But over the past decade, the Tories have moved further and further to the right. In terms of LGBT issues, they are certainly not a party that cares deeply about us. In 2017, they aligned themselves with the DUP who have an anti-LGBT rhetoric in their manifesto. 

And now of course, with Brexit, the Tory party thats in office is the most right wing government since Thatcher. 

The Tories are certainly not the most able for the UK... maybe for England, but certainly not for Scotland, N.Ireland or Wales. 

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24 minutes ago, Tayko said:

I'm french and i stand behind Marine , cause our President since like 20 years are litteraly destroying my country i remember when the whole world thinked that France was one of the most powerfull rich and beautiful country , look at us now 

i’ve been in paris for a couple days two weeks ago with school and yes i was really shocked how your country looks these days + i felt very unsafe in the evening on the streets of paris so yes i understand your choice 

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On 2/5/2019 at 8:57 AM, ALGAYDO said:

Some gay men (many in this very site) value their personal wealth and their racism more than they value the wellbeing of other LGBTQ individuals. It's gross, but what can we do besides call them out for their BS and hope they'll stop being selfish and ignorant one day?

Imagine writing this because some gays prefer Warren over Sanders. 

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3 minutes ago, Matthieu said:

i’ve been in paris for a couple days two weeks ago with school and yes i was really shocked how your country looks these days + i felt very unsafe in the evening on the streets of paris so yes i understand your choice 

This is so sad cause a lot of people close to me feel the exact same , even my korean family from my mother when they came in France they feel unsafe compared to South Korea it's so sad !!

I've seen my country changed so hard for the worst but thank god i still have south korea if i want to leave this mess even if gay right are not accepted in South Korea at least i feel safe to walk on the street the night people are so peacefull compared to France it's just crazy  and also i feel even safe to let my 1000€ smartphone on a table in a restaurant nobody ever stole other people stuff there.

I am mad about my country sorry 

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I’m glad I am not, nor do I know gay people who vote far right 

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oof the bump  y’all are so shady 

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I'd say some more but I promised myself to not talk about politics here anymore