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34 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

The two were examples on how building your fans around younger audiences may benefit you in the short term but is actually hurtful when you stop having huge hits.

Katy career dwindled so much after one flopped album that she can't even debut inside the top 40 anymore with a huge comeback single and a big name producer. 

Look at Taylors single stats of Reputation. LWYMMD was frontloaded as hell and every subsquent single did worse and worse besides the damage control single Delicate which smashed on AC and HAC radio. I don't see another million debut for her anymore in the future because of the extreme damage that Reputation left.

aaaa I don't know who sold you the cheap fantasys of Taylor flopping because she can't recreate a mostrous era like 1989 ....

but Reputation debuted with 1+ mil in US and sold in today's climate 2 mil pure ....that's insane ...only Adele can match those sales ..

LWYMMD debuted with 900 + units on H100 ....Her stats might seem like an underperformance vs her old albums but the underperformance is not near as big as y'all paint it to be because the PURE sale marked bombed in the last 2 years and even ADELE might have some troubles selling 2 mil pure in US ....you will all see ...SHALLOW barely 700 k in US despite the fact that it stayed at #1 for 2-3 months ....

+ Reputation Tour earned 350 mil + ....

Y'ALL WOULD KILL FOR AN ERA LIKE REP FOR GAGA ....and every fanbase would excluding Adele's that might sell on par or a little bit more  ...

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4 minutes ago, corvus albus said:

I was already favoring that a few pages ago. Because a few more smash albums would cement her status as a legend because right now her status is still a bit shaky. This is what I meant with going the Vogue-route. It's an often and successfully used method of turning stars into icons and legends. These songs are always pompous, classy and arrogant as hell which made them so beloved. Pure pop songs that demand you to listen to them.

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I just realized that I should've probably used SexBack instead of Suit & Tie because that song sounds more like a coronation anthem. 

 

even a song like 'cake like Lady Gaga' would smash today lmao 

the standards are really low 

way better than 7 rings 

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32 minutes ago, BawBaw said:

Y'ALL WOULD KILL FOR AN ERA LIKE REP FOR GAGA ....and every fanbase would excluding Adele that might sell on par or a little bit more  ...

Sis ASIB era is by far bigger than the Reputation era :rip:

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1 P!nk - Walk Me Home 1.0000 (white)

2 Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper - Shallow 0.7340 0.7111 (light green)

time for Shallah to go back to #1 ?

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17 minutes ago, OBEY said:

me when people mention madoner  albums and idg what they’re saying/implying bc idk her albums :neyde:

You really should try tho :interestinga: I'm slowly (one every 2 months or something like that) getting into her past albums and she really did THAT. Ray of Light feels like a fresh breeze in 2019, unbelievable

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25 minutes ago, BawBaw said:

aaaa I don't know who sold you the cheap fantasys of Taylor flopping because she can't recreate a mostrous era like 1989 ....

but Reputation debuted with 1+ mil in US and sold in today's climate 2 mil pure ....that's insane ...only Adele can match those sales ..

LWYMMD debuted with 900 + units on H100 ....Her stats might seem like an underperformance vs her old albums but the underperformance is not near as big as y'all paint it to be because the PURE sale marked bombed in the last 2 years and even ADELE might have some troubles selling 2 mil pure in US ....you will all see ...SHALLOW barely 700 k in US despite the fact that it stayed at #1 for 2-3 months ....

+ Reputation Tour earned 350 mil + ....

Y'ALL WOULD KILL FOR AN ERA LIKE REP FOR GAGA ....and every fanbase would excluding Adele's that might sell on par or a little bit more  ...

I talked about how the Reputation era sank more and more with each new single. She had a great starting point off 1989 but she completely blew it. Nobody expected another 1989 but at least another Red or Speak Now should be expected but she didn't even achieve that. A successful tour might sound good but never forget that Justin Timberlake's Man Of The Woods Tour already outsold Joanne, an album which was less successful than Joanne. Or even better: Madonnas Rebel Heart Tour which outsells the Joanne Tour 2:1 but the album was a failure in every sense of the word.

What my point is:

- Reputation damaged Taylors career and she hit a huge slump because of it and will probably never be able to reach new hights

- successful tours don't equate successful albums

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Just now, Sam98 said:

You really should try tho :interestinga: I'm slowly (one every 2 months or something like that) getting into her past albums and she really did THAT. Ray of Light feels like a fresh breeze in 2019, unbelievable

To sad that everything she did after Ray Of Light was pretty terrible (Music, American Life, Hard Candy, MDNA and Rebel Heart are all so bad. You should also skip Erotica if you don't like oral sex lyrics set to lullabies)

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22 minutes ago, Miaou said:

Sis ASIB era is by far bigger than the Reputation era :rip:

not in US .... Taylor got B200 year end with a flop like Rep .....let's see if Gaga will do the same then ...

Rep is 3x PLAT in US  ....

LWUMMD is 4x PLAT in US .....

Even with her decline she's still bigger than Bey / Rihanna / Gaga / Katy /   every other female artist in US except Adele  ...

THAT DOESN'T TAKE ANYTHING AWAY FROM GAGA ! 

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ARUTW at #2 (+1) of most requested songs this week on Austrian's biggest radio station (Ö3). :wub:

Shallow at #25 (+5) on that chart list.

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