MelbHawker 6,583 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 49 minutes ago, Akiki said: That is obvious. But why now? For example, Aragorn in LOTR had the same stance but him reclaiming the throne was innevitable since everyone rulling died mid war and he already had to use his heritage to summon the ghost army. Him being king was also a taunt to Sauron since it was his lineage that made him lose the One ring. His return would shift the focus even more from Frodo and Sam going to mount doom. There is a purpose. With John Snow it seems just like they are throwing stones at a pond to see the waves. The only way this seem relevant is if Dany turns a villain and the only options available are her or Cersei in the Iron Throne. Maybe Dany will make some questionable move while in battle. But still, she still will have an upper hand. Her Army is stronger and sticks with her for her Power and Miracles, not because of bloodline. I can see raeghal switch to John but Drogo is Dany's. Maybe in the end Dany will go to Essos and leave John in the Iron Throne. It's now or never with Jon's claim to the throne, though. Comparing the narrative to LOTR isn't appropriate.. they're different stories / different authors. The way I see it, you can have Dany on the throne but she'll have to take it by force. The 7 Kingdoms won't accept her as their ruler. Her miracles and power won't work in Westeros as they did in Essos. Jon, on the other hand, is respected by the people of Westeros (or at least is gaining respect) as he's leading the fight against the NK. Jon sitting on the throne would also mean as a Stark, he rules the South and the North. Somewhat of an ultimate King. I don't think the focus in Jon's lineage is throwing stones at a pond for waves at all. It's far better than having Dany be the predictable saviour of humanity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akiki 3,900 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 46 minutes ago, MelbHawker said: It's now or never with Jon's claim to the throne, though. Comparing the narrative to LOTR isn't appropriate.. they're different stories / different authors. The way I see it, you can have Dany on the throne but she'll have to take it by force. The 7 Kingdoms won't accept her as their ruler. Her miracles and power won't work in Westeros as they did in Essos. Jon, on the other hand, is respected by the people of Westeros (or at least is gaining respect) as he's leading the fight against the NK. Jon sitting on the throne would also mean as a Stark, he rules the South and the North. Somewhat of an ultimate King. I don't think the focus in Jon's lineage is throwing stones at a pond for waves at all. It's far better than having Dany be the predictable saviour of humanity. Jon is accepted in the North and thats it. Most of the south sided with Dany already. Cersei is the only one that didn't. Dorne and highgarden where with Dany already last season. Dany is helping them fight the Night King. Just like John is. Without Dany John had no chance. People downplay Dany power and influence to easily. John snow impact is local while Dany has been in two continents already Dany is an outsider in The North because of lazy writing. Its not like they werent rulled by targariens for centuries. The rumours of the Targaryen surviving were well known since season one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epione 10,896 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Jon should just say to Dany that he doesn’t want the throne. At least it looked like it. He knows how much it means to her. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gam 19,695 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 I completely forgot that the eerie exists What's going on over there? lastfm - https://tinyurl.com/4x28kakr⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀steam - https://tinyurl.com/mbyp5as5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,725 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 https://poolofdragons.com/groups/b0945f38-0a6e-4be6-a88c-2285a5bc767e For the 21 of you that participated, we will for sure start getting scores this next episode I'm looking back at my predictions and I don't know what the hell I was thinking Greyworm not dying? Brienne not dying? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,890 Posted April 23, 2019 Author Share Posted April 23, 2019 I Just imagined Gaga singing this This is such a beautiful song Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Illuminati Freak 2,432 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, Varys said: I Just imagined Gaga singing this This is such a beautiful song The song was so haunting. You guys need to read this about the song lyrics & story behind them. It's hella interesting and could be telling us where things are going with Dany & Jon. https://io9.gizmodo.com/last-nights-game-of-thrones-song-might-be-more-importan-1834220389 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thatfoxyfeeling 13,003 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 The fact we didn’t see the NK at the end of the episode with his White Walkers makes me think he isn’t at Winterfell... Oh and it’s so obvious that The Crypt isn’t gonna be safe. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 22 hours ago, Akiki said: Jon is accepted in the North and thats it. Most of the south sided with Dany already. Cersei is the only one that didn't. Dorne and highgarden where with Dany already last season. Dany is helping them fight the Night King. Just like John is. Without Dany John had no chance. People downplay Dany power and influence to easily. John snow impact is local while Dany has been in two continents already Dany is an outsider in The North because of lazy writing. Its not like they werent rulled by targariens for centuries. The rumours of the Targaryen surviving were well known since season one. Jon changed Dany's primary goal of conquering Westeros to destroying the NK and his army. Jon was also responsible for exposing the NK threat over Westeros to Cersei and the South (Highgarden and Dorne aren't really Dany's anymore considering Jamie took Highgarden. Dorne's irrelevant going forward because of how that subplot has been handled). I don't think Dany's reign in Essos will help her much in taking the Iron Throne. To the people of Westeros, she is after all, the Mad Kings Daughter and Jon well.. he's possibly the fairest leader in Westeros. The people in the North despise her because her family slaughtered the Starks. It's not lazy writing, IMO. Lazy writing would've been the North embracing her. I'd love to see her on the Throne if the people of the 7 Kingdoms choose her over Jon, because I think she's an epic character. I think the show's going to take a different path though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MelbHawker 6,583 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 hours ago, THATFoxyFeeling said: Oh and it’s so obvious that The Crypt isn’t gonna be safe. They kept emphasising that the Crypts are the safest place in Winterfell. Monday's episode is going to literally destroy the Internet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan 20,725 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 If Dany dies I would at least want one of the dragons to live. If all the dragons die does that mean magic would start to decline again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evolve 571 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 I just hope the show clarifies what the Night King actually is and what he actually wants. If he only wants to kill the 3 eyed raven I'm gonna be pissed. GRRM stated numerous times that this isn't another story about good against evil and that every character is good and bad. NK wanting to kill Bran to erase the history of humanity would be really boring. I'm here for Dany on the Iron Throne if there's gonna be one after the battle. If Jon ends up on the throne I'm gonna be pissed. Also here for NK to wipe everyone out. It would be a bittersweet ending, as according to the Children of the Forest the men invaded their lands and slaughtered them. The men were the initial villains. The WW (and therefore NK) would be the good guys and the actual saviors. Now that would be a great twist. In the books, however, the 3 eyed raven and CotF seem very dark tho, so idk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,396 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Do you guys really think something’s about to go down in the crypts? Give me some unique theories!!! Also, Lyanna @ Catelyn after they're both resurrected in the crypts: I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Varys 30,890 Posted April 24, 2019 Author Share Posted April 24, 2019 7 minutes ago, VOLANTIS said: Do you guys really think something’s about to go down in the crypts? Give me some unique theories!!! Also, Lyanna @ Catelyn after they're both resurrected in the crypts: Catelyn isn't in the cripts because they threw her naked body in the river Banned 04/19/2020 - 04/19/2020 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VOLANTIS 16,396 Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 Just now, Varys said: Catelyn isn't in the cripts because they threw her bajes body in the river That was required for the book plot, no? The show I don't believe mentions what was of her fate (correct me if I'm wrong). Plus we see her tomb in the January teaser telling Jon, Sansa and Arya that the sh** hole they're in is because she wasn't able to love a motherless child. I'll lift you 3 inches off the ground and drag you to a meter and a half Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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