Jadeykins 1,418 Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 21 minutes ago, Logan said: Which is sad because up until Season 7 that’s not at all who she was. The writers failed Daenerys. She's been making very questionable decisions for a while now but until recently it all seemed like she was just a naive girl who didn't understand what comes with ruling or creating change and just needed good advice. But there's definitely a reason why they've written in all this foreshadowing. And at this point she's so consumed with her desire to have her throne I can definitely see her going batshxt on everyone! Daenerys is my favourite character (in the books) so I hope she's good in the end!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Jadeykins said: She's been making very questionable decisions for a while now but until recently it all seemed like she was just a naive girl who didn't understand what comes with ruling or creating change and just needed good advice. But there's definitely a reason why they've written in all this foreshadowing. And at this point she's so consumed with her desire to have her throne I can definitely see her going batshxt on everyone! Daenerys is my favourite character (in the books) so I hope she's good in the end!! my feeling is that Dany has basically been telling herself that she wants to be a good just ruler, that she isn't like all the rest of her family, etc, as a way to justify herself and trying to pretend that she will be different than her ruthless family, or trying to keep that part hidden and not admitting it's there. I think Emilia Clarke is actually doing a pretty good job showing that internal struggle. She's telling herself she's going to be different, and trying to sell that to everyone else, but maybe struggles internally. She's fighting with her internal sense of entitlement to the throne also. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Spoiler I know many of you seem to think the writers are screwing over Daenerys but I actually like that she is so flawed and does things that would be considered evil, because it would be too easy to make her be this perfect, angelic character. I really enjoyed that scene where Dany and Samwell came face to face and she broke the news to him. So much was said in that scene without being said. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eighteen 5,430 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 i think it's a coinflip whether dany will go off the deep end when she finds out she's not the true heir to the iron throne. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,207 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I am enjoying the plot. Need to remember Dany is a 20 years old woman by the season 8. She did some questionable decisions in the past, she did it cos she didn't know better, and of course that will come back to haunt her now. All actions have their own responsibilities. I do not see it as "hating Dany" narrative at all. Everything makes sense so far if we sees it from non biased views. Also, when some people in your group are from the clans that knowingly slaughtering your family members in the past, you can't just welcome them in your house with arms wide open, there ought to be a struggle at first, it will take time before you can accepts and trust them. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢, 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 1 minute ago, RAMROD said: She did some questionable decisions in the past if you're talking about her burning the tarlys, that's not questionable at all We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMROD 109,207 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, Lazz Monster said: if you're talking about her burning the tarlys, that's not questionable at all Dany only know the way how Khalasar solve their issues, while in the other continent she want to reign in, things are not that black and white. There is this the whole complex game of thrones. And of course it is questionable for people in that land, cos you can't just kill people and get over it with like she did in Essos. It will affect how people will accept her as their leader. (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ✧*:･ﾟ 𝘸𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘴𝘩𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢 𝘤𝘰𝘶𝘭𝘥𝘢, 𝘥𝘪𝘥𝘯'𝘵 (*´艸｀*) ♡♡♡ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Just now, RAMROD said: Dany only know the way how Khalasar solve their issues, while in the other continent she want to reign in, things are not that black and white. There is this the whole complex game of thrones. And of course it is questionable for people in that land, cos you can't just kill people and get over it with like she did in Essos. It will affect how people will accept her as their leader. well, i do agree partly with what you said. but i agree 100% with her actions towards the tarlys. they lost a battle, she won, they had to bend the knee. she gave them more than one chance to do it, but they didn't. any other ruler would have executed them, but with a sword. She just used the resources she had, which were the dragons, she wouldn't swing a sword down their necks We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
giskardsb 12,565 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 what I think is more interesting is that we may get to see a whole new side of Samwell now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotNightwing 1,677 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Jaime next episode: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 KINGSLAYER GET IN HERE ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion Heart 15,041 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 I was just wondering.. Spoiler Now that Jon knows he's a Targaryen and eventually the northern lords will realize that too... why would anyone back Danaerys? The northerners already know Jon, they crowned him King even if he 'abandoned' the title.. there's no reason for them to back Dany, someone they don't know. I feel like Sam will reveal the truth about Jon to the rest of the Northerners to spite Dany after the battle with the White Walkers. I don't know... maybe some people will be grateful for her support but Jon has a stronger claim to the Throne. Additionally, the Greyjoy/ Cersei/ Golden Company armies are marching north on a weakened Jon/ Dany/ Northern alliance... ASADGAGSFAFSFJGJGJGJGJG ▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀▄▀ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lion Heart said: Spoiler Now that Jon knows he's a Targaryen and eventually the northern lords will realize that too... why would anyone back Danaerys? The northerners already know Jon, they crowned him King even if he 'abandoned' the title.. there's no reason for them to back Dany, someone they don't know. Spoiler but john doesn't want to be a king, it would be extremely unlike him to say to Dany, i'm the rightful heir, i should be the king, when he's way more content with being a follower, especially to someone he knows would be a good ruler We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glamourpuss 29,062 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 15 minutes ago, Lazz Monster said: Reveal hidden contents but john doesn't want to be a king, it would be extremely unlike him to say to Dany, i'm the rightful heir, i should be the king, when he's way more content with being a follower, especially to someone he knows would be a good ruler Spoiler I think the story is developing that will make Jon decide he wants to be on the throne after all. I think Daenerys will make some bad judgement calls or do something to **** things up somehow. Her and Jon's relationship is going to come to an end as foreshadowed this episode, it's just a case of how. And that will be the catalyst for Jon becoming king of the iron throne. He thought he was the honourable bastard son of Ned Stark before but now he knows he's a Targaryen, it might wake something up inside him... and the fact he can ride dragons now too. Everything he didn't want before might be everything he wants now that he knows what his birthright is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazz Monster 19,353 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 3 minutes ago, Glamourpuss said: Hide contents I think the story is developing that will make Jon decide he wants to be on the throne after all. I think Daenerys will make some bad judgement calls or do something to **** things up somehow. Her and Jon's relationship is going to come to an end as foreshadowed this episode, it's just a case of how. And that will be the catalyst for Jon becoming king of the iron throne. He thought he was the honourable bastard son of Ned Stark before but now he knows he's a Targaryen, it might wake something up inside him... and the fact he can ride dragons now too. Everything he didn't want before might be everything he wants now that he knows what his birthright is. Spoiler Well, if that indeed happens, that will be obviously the writers wanting the public to start hating on Dany, cuz Jon never once demonstrated that he wants to be a king, now just because he finds out his true parents, suddenly all his wants and desires will change? i'm sorry but no, that shouldn't happen, if it happens because Dany fuc*ed up, it will feel extremely forced We're far from the Shallow now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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