Game Of Thrones S8 | Finale

[MelbHawker 6,583]

17 hours ago, BOMSHELL said:

Sure let’s put 100 guardsmen for one dwarf and not a single soul to protect the queen of the seven kingdoms from a surprise attack. I’m sure a dragon will be as swift as a human guard to protect her from a quick attack as well, Drogon did a very good job. Fantastic twist. The “I DUH WANN ET YOU MA QUEEN” boy rises up to the task, after a shitty talk with Tyrion, so satisfying, such a subversion of expectations

The amazing cast deserved better than D&D

We should just agree to disagree.

You're watching a show about a country that doesn't know the world is round, dragons, ice zombies, resurrection, immortality, killer shadows, 'warging', visions, ice zombie dragons, face swapping.. the list goes on & you're mad about Daenerys not being guarded in that throne room when she literally just burned the city to ash along with all who opposed her?  Had Jon walked into that throne room with guards there, she'd have told them to leave her alone with him as she always does when Jon's in front of her.

 

[MelbHawker 6,583]

8 hours ago, Florin said:

The real question is where Drogon took Dany.

The fact that Bran, the person who knew genocide will happen and did nothing was elected king doesnt make any sense. 

Bran knew Daenerys would be in Kings Landing, but not what she'd do. Even if he had seen, Bran really couldn't have done anything to stop her.

[brownie 5]

18 minutes ago, MelbHawker said:

We should just agree to disagree.

You're watching a show about a country that doesn't know the world is round, dragons, ice zombies, resurrection, immortality, killer shadows, 'warging', visions, ice zombie dragons, face swapping.. the list goes on & you're mad about Daenerys not being guarded in that throne room when she literally just burned the city to ash along with all who opposed her?  Had Jon walked into that throne room with guards there, she'd have told them to leave her alone with him as she always does when Jon's in front of her.

 

Your own suggestion makes sense logically and is better than “nope she really was just left alone in a city that hates her”. 

And people who excuse things like this as “but duh, it’s a fantasy show” are the lamest. That’s not an argument and no excuse for lazy writing.

[brownie 5]

11 hours ago, MelbHawker said:

Bran knew Daenerys would be in Kings Landing, but not what she'd do. Even if he had seen, Bran really couldn't have done anything to stop her.

Bran 100% knew. Did you watch the show? He has a vision of the dragon over Kings landing in season 6 and says he knows everything a man has seen present, past, future. One MILLION people in KL saw Dany go on a rampage. He knew and it was just never brought up or questioned.

[Glamourpuss 29,062]

Spoiler

So was this Bran's game all along? He's been manipulating things along the way and saying that people were where they were supposed to be.

I kind of liked how it wasn't a happy ending and that it was anti-climactic for Jon because it made it more real in that way. But it did seem like many storylines were made irrelevant in the end and some things that were focused on so much weren't all that important after all.

 

[Bt1 5,213]

1 hour ago, MelbHawker said:

Bran knew Daenerys would be in Kings Landing, but not what she'd do. Even if he had seen, Bran really couldn't have done anything to stop her.

He can enter animals, so no. He just watched a genocide because he didnt care about people or because he wanted to be king. 

[Bt1 5,213]

There is a beautiful interpretation that says that Drogon and Daenerys were bonded, so when Daenerys died, Drogon inherited her. That means that the very human decisions that Drogon made in the final scenes were Dany's choices. She choose to forgive Jon and burn the thone. Too bad that the show didnt show it this way and it will remain just an interpretation. 

[Logan 20,725]

 

At least the music is good.

[Lion Heart 15,041]

16 hours ago, Gam said:

Greyworm... I- 

The DI.CK that was promised.

[NightStar 313]

2 hours ago, Florin said:

He can enter animals, so no. He just watched a genocide because he didnt care about people or because he wanted to be king. 

I think it's because he cared about people in general, not the people in King's Landing. I mean for him, the only threat was the one coming from white walkers and Night King. That threat was eliminated. People won, people in general. The rest - like wars and city slaughters - are typical human sh*t in their world and it doesn't pose an existential threat to their society, so Bran couldn't care less, probably. 

[B2theRich33 2,239]

I’ve been waiting ALL season to finally say something about this.. I’ve been reading comments here and there on this forum about the show. 

To start I love this series. The books are fantastic. I’m re-reading them for the third time now. The show, just as fantastic because it’s a different interpretation to the same material. I’ve  listened to all the backstory videos the cast and crew have put together detailing the history of Westeros that isn’t seen on screen dating back to the Age of Hero’s and what not. Listening to all of this material and then seeing this final season shows just how well the creators do know this actual history and lore of this fictitious world. It’s amazing. We’re there discrepancies here and there, of course it’s expected. But overall this season was astounding in every way. It was beautifully done and very poetic in a sense of who the real villain is (if you think it’s the Night King, sorry folks he has yet to mentioned in the books.. so.... can’t blame anyone but yourself for thinking he was the big baddie out of everyone). 

Its ridiculous that so many are hating on this because the ending that was shown was not one of the hundreds of fan theories out there or pieces of fan fiction y’all have been reading. I’ve read them too, and yeah it’d be cool etc but I’m in love with this ending. Jamie’s Character arc? Not destroyed, the scene of Brienne filling in those pages is all he cared about. His story of all the good deeds he’s done show others coming after him that he was a good person, regardless of his choices. It was beautiful! Dany’s descent to madness? It made sense. Was it rushed? Perhaps, but it’s not s far reach.... she’s always been someone to rule on emotion and not logic. The things she’s done we’re good yes for the people it was helping, but they were still terrible acts! Tyrion says it himself! Bran being king, why not. He’s the perfect fit because he can’t have an heir. Jon not being king? Why would he after that, he saw what it does to people and he’s always been a mini Ned Stark. He had to exile himself, so he can feel better for himself. No character’s story felt undermined at the end. They all had purpose...

if you disagree that’s fine. But to call D&D incompetent and horrible writers is not okay. They handled everything perfectly (for the most part) and it’s not their fault you got hooked on a theory or a rumor and ran like wild fire with it. Then got mad when it was just that a rumor.... 

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44 minutes ago, NightStar said:

I think it's because he cared about people in general, not the people in King's Landing. I mean for him, the only threat was the one coming from white walkers and Night King. That threat was eliminated. People won, people in general. The rest - like wars and city slaughters - are typical human sh*t in their world and it doesn't pose an existential threat to their society, so Bran couldn't care less, probably. 

Well, then he shouldnt be king. For me, it doesnt sound that different than Dany plan. 

[NightStar 313]

6 minutes ago, Florin said:

Well, then he shouldnt be king. For me, it doesnt sound that different than Dany plan. 

I was not against Dany's plan at all. I think she would've been precisely the sort of ruler they needed. 

Firstly, I am talking about the series. So, in the series the Seven Kingdoms had been shook by wars of Five Kings following Robert's death and by Dany's war against house Lannister before she went northward to help Jon defeat the Night King. As Sir Davos brilliantly put it, they had been slitting each other's throats for long enough. They needed someone who could put an end to this, and it was Dany. Her destruction of King's Landing, brutal, merciless and meaninglessly violent as it might have appeared, did serve one purpose: it showcased her dominance to every other king and queen in the Seven Kingdoms. I doubt that anybody would've dared question her claim to the throne. Yes, Arya told Jon that Sansa would never recognize Dany, but I thought it was more like Arya's manipulation of Jon: she knew Jon risked a great deal while trying to protect Sansa from the Boltons (ultimately going into a hopeless battle of the bastards) and she knew what strings to pull to make Jon stab Dany. Sansa is cunning and not dumb at all: I am sure she would've stayed calm after learning the massacre of King's Landing. Every part of Westeros would've stayed calm and recognized Dany's rule, for nobody wanted to be burned by that giant dragon, and besides, Dorne, The Storm Lands and the Iron Islands were already on Dany's side. Dany's bloody ascend could mark the beginning of the longest era of peace within the seven kingdoms, for there were no slaves in the seven kingdoms.

Her foreign policy and the liberation of slaves "from Lannisport to Qarth" did sound frightening, but the world without slaves is better than the world with slaves. 

As for her "they don't get to choose" assumption - she just bloody acknowledges reality. Jon himself belongs with the social group that is the most privileged in Westeros. Nobody in Westeros gets to choose except for noblemen and noblewomen, merchants, top craftsmen, military commanders, meisters and clergy. Welcome to feudal kingdom. Only some people get to choose in their world, that's so. Dany, at least, was the one with some decency that could give an impulse to the development of the seven kingdoms. 

Without her, this whole country will continue falling apart. Sansa's withdrawal of North from the 7k was just the beginning. Now that Drogon is gone and there is no dominant military weapon in the realm, the great houses and the lands will hurry back into fighting, the way they did before Aegon I united them. The next election of the king would mark the beginning of this tragic mess compared to which the burning of king's landing would seem a festivity. 

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9 hours ago, VOLANTIS said:

Omg GoT fans on twitter are dragging both Sophie and Emilia regarding the Sansa vs Dany fight and it's looking so ugly how old are these fans? It's okay to fight about characters and writers and all that but how can you blame the actors for a role they were required to play on a television series? Make it make sense? I saw some death threats go Sophie's way and some of them had Gaga avis 

That is so stupid, they simply did what they were told    idk why but a lot of people on the internet are so damn toxic!

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[Bt1 5,213]

57 minutes ago, NightStar said:

I was not against Dany's plan at all. I think she would've been precisely the sort of ruler they needed. 

Firstly, I am talking about the series. So, in the series the Seven Kingdoms had been shook by wars of Five Kings following Robert's death and by Dany's war against house Lannister before she went northward to help Jon defeat the Night King. As Sir Davos brilliantly put it, they had been slitting each other's throats for long enough. They needed someone who could put an end to this, and it was Dany. Her destruction of King's Landing, brutal, merciless and meaninglessly violent as it might have appeared, did serve one purpose: it showcased her dominance to every other king and queen in the Seven Kingdoms. I doubt that anybody would've dared question her claim to the throne. Yes, Arya told Jon that Sansa would never recognize Dany, but I thought it was more like Arya's manipulation of Jon: she knew Jon risked a great deal while trying to protect Sansa from the Boltons (ultimately going into a hopeless battle of the bastards) and she knew what strings to pull to make Jon stab Dany. Sansa is cunning and not dumb at all: I am sure she would've stayed calm after learning the massacre of King's Landing. Every part of Westeros would've stayed calm and recognized Dany's rule, for nobody wanted to be burned by that giant dragon, and besides, Dorne, The Storm Lands and the Iron Islands were already on Dany's side. Dany's bloody ascend could mark the beginning of the longest era of peace within the seven kingdoms, for there were no slaves in the seven kingdoms.

Her foreign policy and the liberation of slaves "from Lannisport to Qarth" did sound frightening, but the world without slaves is better than the world with slaves. 

As for her "they don't get to choose" assumption - she just bloody acknowledges reality. Jon himself belongs with the social group that is the most privileged in Westeros. Nobody in Westeros gets to choose except for noblemen and noblewomen, merchants, top craftsmen, military commanders, meisters and clergy. Welcome to feudal kingdom. Only some people get to choose in their world, that's so. Dany, at least, was the one with some decency that could give an impulse to the development of the seven kingdoms. 

Without her, this whole country will continue falling apart. Sansa's withdrawal of North from the 7k was just the beginning. Now that Drogon is gone and there is no dominant military weapon in the realm, the great houses and the lands will hurry back into fighting, the way they did before Aegon I united them. The next election of the king would mark the beginning of this tragic mess compared to which the burning of king's landing would seem a festivity. 

I agree with you. I saw her dialogue with Jon from the same perspective and all that happen after her death, it didnt sit right with me. The small council meeting was the most annoying thing with Brienne having one line about brothels. Nothing has changed and who knows who will be the other masters while Bran does other things. :)) They could have give him some lines to show us that he can be a good leader, but like Robert, he seems to have others interests than the good of the kingdom, while the hand of the king with the council will do the work.