Ellen Reveals She Called the Academy to Help Re-Hire Kevin Hart

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Jesus... is anyone reading what they’re typing? You guys are seriously “canceling” Ellen & Kevin Hart over some stupid sh*t that he’s apologized for multiple times & has done again. This whole “cancelled” culture that masquerades as justice is seriously disgusting... He’s apologized, he’s grown, he’s moved on, those of you who can’t let it go are the issue. Maybe we should look at your history, I’m certain we can all find something you’ve done that was wrong. Ellen gave him a platform because he needs to be heard & it’s the right thing to do. Did you even watch the interview? I’m guessing not. All of you jumping to saying “cancelled” need to educate yourself on the issue instead of just reading the headline. Trust & believe y’all are in the wrong because forgiveness is never wrong.

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1 minute ago, Didymus said:

I never said I hadn't said **** I regret now, but I'm also not a celebrity Like, sorry, but the two things are related. When you know you have a public platform and you're scrutinized for every letter you post on Twitter, why do you think it's ok to post "if I see my son playing with a dollhouse I'll break it on his head?" IN PUBLIC for the world to see

That's just dumb. And I totally get that he's changed and he doesn't agree with it anymore, but too late, man. Yes, he does not deserve to be eternally punished, but you know some people are never gonna forget that. And you're right, there's no real meaningful purpose to keep digging it up, but it's what happens when you're a star. And handling it like an adult and having the decency to keep repeating, perhaps endlessly, that you're not that person anymore is the least you can do What you don't do is play a victim. Because just like you posted that horrendous tweet, you can always set your record straight. And if you have to do that 100x over, that's just what you have to do. No "omg it's a conspiracy!!" comments required.

He said those things 10 years ago, so the line between saying dumb **** and being a celebrity is a little more blurred. I don't know all of Kevin Hart's career, I quite honestly don't even really like the guy. I'm very indifferent towards him and I don't follow the things he does. If you had criticized him 10 years ago, that's completely valid and fair, but in my opinion, it's just ridiculous that these types of things keep getting brought up.

You're right in the sense that because he is a celebrity, things like this will always be brought up, but it's just my opinion that things like that are stupid, dumb, and ultimately are unproductive. It's gonna keep happening anyway because he is a celebrity and people can't seem to connect that they're just people too, and in that sense, I just think people need to learn how to critically think about things instead of going "WELL HE/SHE SAID 'X' 10 YEARS AGO AND NOW WE ALL GOTTA JUMP ON THIS BANDWAGON AND HATE THEM BECAUSE WE'RE 'WOKE'" or whatever.

That said, I do think he has a right to feel like he's being attacked (for the lack of a better word). Perhaps he could have gone about it a different way, but he's saying how he feels, and honestly, I would feel the same in his situation. It is malicious when the day after the day you got the job to host the Oscars, headlines start appearing over your past. People just don't sit there and scroll through your Twitter history for fun; they did it because they knew it would hurt him and his career. Honestly, when people uncover things like this, what that tells me is that those people care less about what that particular celebrity said, but more so care about how what they said could influence their career.

And I get that that's what's going to happen inevitably, I'm not arguing that. I'm just saying that I think this "witch hunt" culture needs to change. 

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26 minutes ago, Antonoff said:

where?

Multiple times... search anywhere Kevin Hart homophobic apology & various videos from years ago on the subject show up... its also addressed in the Ellen interview if you watched...

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1 hour ago, M Monstre said:

People need to stop attacking Kevin for this, plain and simple. I appreciate that Ellen did this and I fully agree with what she said. This witch hunt against people's past is stupid, pointless, and irritating. What does digging up what someone said 10 years ago do for anyone? Absolutely nothing.

I'm not saying that what he said wasn't insensitive, stupid, or hurtful, because what he said was wrong.  That being said, you are doing nothing by bringing up his past. He's grown, he's changed, and there is nothing you can do about the past.

If y'all want to fight homophobia, fight it where it counts instead of using what someone said 10 years ago against them. 

Y'all defended James Gunn when his tweets were dug up (trust me, I remember because I used to be one of those people that vehemently went after Gunn), so why are y'all now attack Hart? 

No one cares about what he said 10 years ago. We all understand he has grown since these comments. 

The problem is that he refused to apologize and doesn’t seem to think he owes it to anyone to actually say himself that he has grown and learned better since these tweets. 

The exact opposite is true for James Gunn. He apologized profusely and has made a public effort to demonstrate he has learned from his mistakes. 

Grown men and women are not above apologizing. 

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Just now, lovedillon said:

Multiple times... search anywhere Kevin Hart homophobic apology & various videos from years ago on the subject show up... its also addressed in the Ellen interview if you watched...

He specifically said he would not apologize with this most recent incident. 

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1 hour ago, DelusionalGaga said:

Over her and her show. Stop inviting idiots who f*cked up and are now trying to clear their image. A challenge. Do that challenge. 

What Kevin Hart said was trash but so is this thread:

Imagine being against forgiveness when other people have forgived you in your own personal life. The hypocrisy smells.

1 hour ago, GypsyVida said:

No. It's because we don't want an openly homophobic man hosting an awards show that is primarily watched by women and gays.

He could've simply said sorry for his actions like everyone else. But no, he had to play the victim and act like people are attacking him for no reason. There is NO reason to be homophobic in 2019. And even though the tweets happened a long time ago, if he doesn't give an apology, that means he still stands by what he said in the tweets today. 

whether he’s a rightful victim or not, should be the discussion, bc by definition he is… so… that’s that. plus yes it’s so dumb that bored crazy people do this. especially since there already was evidence he doesn’t stand by those tweets years before this, so no wonder his initial reaction wasn’t to apologize bc he’s so far removed from that. but this is what happens when you let twitter educate you: acting on deception. 

1 hour ago, DiscoHeaven23 said:

Like is she just gonna ignore that he said his worst fear is his son being gay?

 

Ellen is so different now. Hollywood has consumed her mind and gone to her head.

??? what era of hollywood are you talking about? not 2019 post-meToo Hollywood…  

No offence but y’all truly snapped. What do you want, for everyone to safely learn and grow from their past selves, or for there to forever be hatred in the world so you can look good when you fight against it (you don’t)? 

The good for your ego or the good for the world? You think you can fight for both but the actions being taken isn’t doing that. 

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Just now, MJHolland said:

He specifically said he would not apologize with this most recent incident. 

Yes, because he’s already apologized multiple times for the same exact comments. It’s not his “most recent incident” it happened in 2008 & he’s apologized for those tweets from 2008. Everyone literally has the internet at their fingertips & if they cared so much they could search & see the various apologies lol

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2 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

I'm just saying that I think this "witch hunt" culture needs to change.  

Probably, yeah. But it's not gonna change if it keeps working He keeps digging his own grave. Like, don't act like refusing to apologize (initially) didn't make that whole controversy a million times worse If he just apologized responsibly every single time it was brought up, then it wouldn't be such a hot topic every time.

That's why I find his "this isn't just a coincidence!!!" rhetoric so distasteful. It makes it far more dramatic and serious than it is and he doesn't deserve that. He just posted some dumb **** without thinking, that's literally it. Acknowledging that should be his #1 priority. Imagine how different the reaction of the public would've been if he simply said: "I hate that this keeps following me but I did post it and I get it. But please believe me when I say I don't mean that anymore." Controversy over in a second. This is milking it and victimizing himself, and when the subject is aggressively homophobic comments, even if they were 10 years ago, you don't get to play that card, you just don't. And I can't believe people like Ellen are letting him off the hook for that.

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2 minutes ago, MJHolland said:

No one cares about what he said 10 years ago. We all understand he has grown since these comments. 

The problem is that he refused to apologize and doesn’t seem to think he owes it to anyone to actually say himself that he has grown and learned better since these tweets. 

The exact opposite is true for James Gunn. He apologized profusely and has made a public effort to demonstrate he has learned from his mistakes. 

Grown men and women are not above apologizing. 

He's apologized before, and he explicitly tells Ellen why he didn't feel the need to apologize again.

The real problem is that people just hear what they want to hear. He's even apologized recently:

and yet people are still trying to come after him.

He didn't apologize it's done it before and he feels like he shouldn't have to do it again. I can understand that.

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3 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Probably, yeah. But it's not gonna change if it keeps working He keeps digging his own grave. Like, don't act like refusing to apologize (initially) didn't make that whole controversy a million times worse If he just apologized responsibly every single time it was brought up, then it wouldn't be such a hot topic every time.

That's why I find his "this isn't just a coincidence!!!" rhetoric so distasteful. It makes it far more dramatic and serious than it is and he doesn't deserve that. He just posted some dumb **** without thinking, that's literally it. Acknowledging that should be his #1 priority. Imagine how different the reaction of the public would've been if he simply said: "I hate that this keeps following me but I did post it and I get it. But please believe me when I say I don't mean that anymore." Controversy over in a second. This is milking it and victimizing himself, and when the subject is aggressively homophobic comments, even if they were 10 years ago, you don't get to play that card, you just don't. And I can't believe people like Ellen are letting him off the hook for that.

But he didn't feel the need to apologize because he's done that already (when the tweets were first brought up). Sure, he probably could have made the situation easier by just apologizing again, but I can understand where he's coming from. To apologize again, and again, and again for something you said 10 years ago that isn't representative of who he is now is tiresome and superfluous. I acknowledge that it's just the way celebrities have to handle things, but I just think it's wrong and unjust. Had he actually did the things he said in the tweets, that would be a different story. However, by just making a wrong, insensitive, and crude joke, I mean, come on...

He's recently apologized and that's all he can do. Even within this video, he's said that he acknowledges that what he said was wrong. Like, there is literally nothing else he can do. What's in the past is in the past and even though it was dumb, stupid, idiotic, etc., etc., etc., there is just no point in bringing it up again, especially after he's apologized recently. 

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So the angry bottoms haven't moved on from this non-issue yet? The amount of free time those teens have is funny and embarrassing  at the same time.

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4 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

To apologize again, and again, and again for something you said 10 years ago that isn't representative of who he is now is tiresome and superfluous. I acknowledge that it's just the way celebrities have to handle things, but I just think it's wrong and unjust. Had he actually did the things he said in the tweets, that would be a different story. However, by just making a wrong, insensitive, and crude joke, I mean, come on...

Well, first of all, as tiresome and superfluous it is, too bad mate. If that's the price you have to pay for being ****ing rich, then I'm not gonna feel bad for him for having to pay it.

Secondly, a joke? I wouldn't describe homophobia as humor, sis. Just some advice. What he posted wasn't a joke. It was pure homophobia. Damaging and incredibly problematic homophobia. Anyone who says something like that should expect to not be trusted for a long ass time.

6 minutes ago, M Monstre said:

He's recently apologized and that's all he can do. Even within this video, he's said that he acknowledges that what he said was wrong. Like, there is literally nothing else he can do.

100%.

But he does something else He turns it into a victim story. He should've just ended where what you're saying now. But there was a "but". And that is what I'm talking about.

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I agree that this witch hunt is ridiculous and people have the right to change and not constantly being cancelled for their past words.

However, I think we all remember Kevin Hart's first reaction to this scandal and it just makes his "apology" look fake.

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Wtf is this interview why is she licking his ass hole for the first 2 minutes. Like wtf

Also why does anyone think kevin hart is an honest and humble man. Did he not cheat on his PREGNANT wife. I consider that the epitome of being scum. He should be canceled for that. 

I don’t agree with attacking someone of 10 years ago **** but his cockiness transcends this planet. Someone needs to put him in his place and Ellen stroking his fragile ego for 2 mins doesn’t help

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22 minutes ago, Didymus said:

Well, first of all, as tiresome and superfluous it is, too bad mate. If that's the price you have to pay for being ****ing rich, then I'm not gonna feel bad for him for having to pay it.

Secondly, a joke? I wouldn't describe homophobia as humor, sis. Just some advice. What he posted wasn't a joke. It was pure homophobia. Damaging and incredibly problematic homophobia. Anyone who says something like that should expect to not be trusted for a long ass time.

100%.

But he does something else He turns it into a victim story. He should've just ended where what you're saying now. But there was a "but". And that is what I'm talking about.

He's a comedian. I agree that it's disgusting, what he said, but it was supposed to be this "edgy, dark humor" that just wasn't funny. I'm not saying that I support it or that I find it funny or anything. I think it was absolutely wrong and that trying to be "edgy" with a joke like that was distasteful, but it was intended to be a joke. I'm not saying that it came across that way (because it certainly didn't), but that was him trying to make a joke.

Again, I agree that he could have handled the situation better, but I understand where he's coming from. To an extent, he is a victim. It's certainly not as bad as experiencing actual homophobia, but he is a victim of this "witch hunt".